▲ 271 ▼ "5'6? Good lad, we'll teach you the rest by beatings" Classical Antiquity (~100 BCE) (media.piefed.social) submitted 8 months ago by PugJesus@piefed.social to c/historymemes@piefed.social 36 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 16 points 8 months ago (2 children) "Its not gay if you're the top." - The Egyptians permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 child) Pretty sure that's the Romans, too. (And more accurate than what PugJesus said.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PugJesus@piefed.social [S] 3 points 8 months ago Funny enough, I actually did a deep dive on Roman sexuality not too long ago. I put the "It's not gay if there's no penetration" bit because references to intercrural sex (favored amongst the Greeks) and frottage are nonexistent, while handjobs are considered 'spicy' but not really sex - and thus not really 'gay,' since the perception of Romans of 'effeminate' sexuality was centered around sex, not romance. For that reason, it seems intuitive to suspect that Romans probably didn't regard these acts as sex - if they did, either condemnation (especially of political enemies) or depiction would seem likely, especially with their taste for pornographic artwork. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 child) Pretty sure that's the Romans, too. (And more accurate than what PugJesus said.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PugJesus@piefed.social [S] 3 points 8 months ago Funny enough, I actually did a deep dive on Roman sexuality not too long ago. I put the "It's not gay if there's no penetration" bit because references to intercrural sex (favored amongst the Greeks) and frottage are nonexistent, while handjobs are considered 'spicy' but not really sex - and thus not really 'gay,' since the perception of Romans of 'effeminate' sexuality was centered around sex, not romance. For that reason, it seems intuitive to suspect that Romans probably didn't regard these acts as sex - if they did, either condemnation (especially of political enemies) or depiction would seem likely, especially with their taste for pornographic artwork. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@piefed.social [S] 3 points 8 months ago Funny enough, I actually did a deep dive on Roman sexuality not too long ago. I put the "It's not gay if there's no penetration" bit because references to intercrural sex (favored amongst the Greeks) and frottage are nonexistent, while handjobs are considered 'spicy' but not really sex - and thus not really 'gay,' since the perception of Romans of 'effeminate' sexuality was centered around sex, not romance. For that reason, it seems intuitive to suspect that Romans probably didn't regard these acts as sex - if they did, either condemnation (especially of political enemies) or depiction would seem likely, especially with their taste for pornographic artwork. permalink fedilink source parent