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[+] -8 points 8 months ago (6 children)

If vegans really cared about these things more than keeping the moral high ground, they'd be focusing on practical solutions like making lab-grown meat and plant-based substitutes so tasty and affordable that corporations are the ones that start pushing for them, so they can't stop spending on costly cattle.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Vegans are just voicing their truth. This "practical solutions" nonsense is just moving goal posts.

    Vegan diets are perfectly sustainable for most people and eating large amounts of terrestrial mammals (as opposed to fish and bugs) is maybe a historically newer phenomena than we'd like to think, especially on a culture by culture basis (japan for instance has mostly subsisted on vegetables and seafood, as have most coastal cities historically)

    The idea people have to beef every day or whatever is partly a product of beef industry marketing and corporate culture. Culture at least changes. Look what the tomatoes from the americas did to italian cuisine decades after it was imported.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago*

    We already have perfectly fine meat substitutes. Have you actually tried them? They've come a long way.

    I don't know that lab grown meat will ever be able to replace meat if people keep eating it at the same rate. Besides, there's nothing I, as an individual, can do to advance the progress lab grown meat. I can help advance the progress of meat substitutes by... buying them instead of meat.

    Cutting meat out of my life saves the lives of countless animals. That is a lot more practical than wishing upon a star that lab grown meat was more developed or economically viable.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    I mean, I workout 8 or 10 times a week, super fit, 50 years old, haven't had meat in 30 years. I can understand "it tastes good and I'm not willing to stop", but this find alternatives stuff makes no sense.

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