▲ 310 ▼ Europe is ready to ditch US tech for private alternatives (proton.me) submitted 8 months ago by Beep@lemmus.org to c/technology@lemmy.world 27 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] akmur@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago (6 children) not sure about ready... sure there's a will permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 12 points 8 months ago (5 children) Not even sure there is that much will on politicians side. I hope there is, but they are mostly ignorant (judging from politicians in my country) and wouldn't distinguish between Word and Windows. They might be interested if there are elections and public pushes for it. But once elected then it's another song based on US stick and carrot. Mostly sticks from this administration. But I really do hope we start to move and now is the best time possible. Also recently there was data that German Federal Administration is paying Microsoft something like: 2023: 274.091.361,75 Euro 2024: 347.665.579,71 Euro 2025: 481.369.660,77 Euro The trend is not encouraging, isn't it, and those are insane numbers - imagine what could we have for that amount with OSS. There is another neglected area - computer education in elementary school is practically non-existent and tiny-existent in middle school in my country while MS is subsidizing software for government and specially education sector. And so the circle of is closed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] akmur@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (4 children) are those millions? am I reading that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) Your eyesight is 20/20 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] akmur@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago I was doubting my own sight yes permalink fedilink source parent [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 8 months ago* (1 child) yes, german has a very weird way of writing numbers, where . is replaced by , and , is replaced by . So, in US numbers, that would be EUR 274,091,361.75 It has confused many people already. It should be made more consistent internationally. I propose all use the US format of 274,091,361.75 because that's already used in programming and so it's widespread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago "Very weird way of writing numbers" You mean like in all of Europe (excluding UK and Ireland) and latin America? It's only english speaking countries and some Asian countries that separate with , permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mihies@programming.dev 12 points 8 months ago (5 children) Not even sure there is that much will on politicians side. I hope there is, but they are mostly ignorant (judging from politicians in my country) and wouldn't distinguish between Word and Windows. They might be interested if there are elections and public pushes for it. But once elected then it's another song based on US stick and carrot. Mostly sticks from this administration. But I really do hope we start to move and now is the best time possible. Also recently there was data that German Federal Administration is paying Microsoft something like: 2023: 274.091.361,75 Euro 2024: 347.665.579,71 Euro 2025: 481.369.660,77 Euro The trend is not encouraging, isn't it, and those are insane numbers - imagine what could we have for that amount with OSS. There is another neglected area - computer education in elementary school is practically non-existent and tiny-existent in middle school in my country while MS is subsidizing software for government and specially education sector. And so the circle of is closed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] akmur@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (4 children) are those millions? am I reading that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) Your eyesight is 20/20 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] akmur@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago I was doubting my own sight yes permalink fedilink source parent [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 8 months ago* (1 child) yes, german has a very weird way of writing numbers, where . is replaced by , and , is replaced by . So, in US numbers, that would be EUR 274,091,361.75 It has confused many people already. It should be made more consistent internationally. I propose all use the US format of 274,091,361.75 because that's already used in programming and so it's widespread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago "Very weird way of writing numbers" You mean like in all of Europe (excluding UK and Ireland) and latin America? It's only english speaking countries and some Asian countries that separate with , permalink fedilink source parent
[–] akmur@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (4 children) are those millions? am I reading that right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) Your eyesight is 20/20 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] akmur@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago I was doubting my own sight yes permalink fedilink source parent [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 8 months ago* (1 child) yes, german has a very weird way of writing numbers, where . is replaced by , and , is replaced by . So, in US numbers, that would be EUR 274,091,361.75 It has confused many people already. It should be made more consistent internationally. I propose all use the US format of 274,091,361.75 because that's already used in programming and so it's widespread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago "Very weird way of writing numbers" You mean like in all of Europe (excluding UK and Ireland) and latin America? It's only english speaking countries and some Asian countries that separate with , permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mihies@programming.dev 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) Your eyesight is 20/20 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] akmur@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago I was doubting my own sight yes permalink fedilink source parent
[–] akmur@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago I was doubting my own sight yes permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 8 months ago* (1 child) yes, german has a very weird way of writing numbers, where . is replaced by , and , is replaced by . So, in US numbers, that would be EUR 274,091,361.75 It has confused many people already. It should be made more consistent internationally. I propose all use the US format of 274,091,361.75 because that's already used in programming and so it's widespread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago "Very weird way of writing numbers" You mean like in all of Europe (excluding UK and Ireland) and latin America? It's only english speaking countries and some Asian countries that separate with , permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago "Very weird way of writing numbers" You mean like in all of Europe (excluding UK and Ireland) and latin America? It's only english speaking countries and some Asian countries that separate with , permalink fedilink source parent