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[–] 2 points 8 months ago (11 children)

It ultimately doesn't matter. Regardless of the outcome of the election, things weren't going to change in the short term. It wasn't an issue that was relevant to the election because of this.

At least there was a small chance that Harris was toeing the AIPAC line to get last minute campaign funding, then would change her stance back to what it was when she was VP.

I didn't follow her campaign remarks on the genocide super closely, but what I did see from her was always a political non-answer.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Regardless of the outcome of the election, things weren't going to change in the short term. It wasn't an issue that was relevant to the election because of this.

    It is voters that decide what is relevant, not the politicians.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago* (6 children)

    Then the voters are stupid. There was no realistic option in the 2024 election that was guaranteed good for Palestine. Period.

    By abstaining from voting, you said that you were fine with two+ genocides instead of one.

    You don't always get perfect choices for political candidates, but in this instance one choice was orders of magnitude worse than the other. And now instead of getting 4 years to try to push progressivism, we get an untold amount of time fighting against trump and his handlers.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    No, this is not how it works and the Democratic party will not win until it stops with this condescending voters shit.

    If politicians refuse to listen to voters, the system is irrevocably headed for collapse, it seems like maybe you are in denial about that?

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    So you were one of the people who were cool with letting Trump enact Project 2025.

    It's not like his behavior is a surprise. They literally published exactly what they were going to do and are doing it.

    Protest voting or abstaining in the 2024 presidential election didn't hurt the DNC, and it didn't teach them a lesson. It hurt you and every other vulnerable person in the country. It hurt people dependent of USAID, it hurt the Ukrainians, it hurt Cuba, and it hurt Venezuela.

    It certainly didn't help Palestine.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Stopping putting words in my mouth that I did not say and have an actual conversation with the person in front of you, not this strawman you keep shoving in front of me while I am trying to make a different point that you refuse to listen to because you are sure I did something and am proud of it that I have repeatedly said I did not do.

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  • [+] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    She didn't give a "non answer". That's not in a vacuum. She was part of the admin that was funding and supplying a genocide. So a non answer is the status quo. Which is genocide.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    The Biden administration openly lied to the public. It was funny how smirkin' Matt Miller even admitted that what they were doing was wrong...conveniently when he was no longer in a position to do anything about it: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-03/matthew-miller-israel-war-crimes-us-state-department/105369528

    Committing genocide to steal land that will likely be uninhabitable in 30 years due to climate change is certainly a choice.

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