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Intermittent fasting no better than typical weight loss diets, study finds (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] 4 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I think it's because keto is not super healthy long term. You need fiber, friend. You. Need. Fiber.

That being said I'm a big believer of you get to choose what you want to eat, so do what you want with your own body!

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    I didn’t experience any health problems and fiber is explicitly encouraged as a way to get unavoidable carbs down. Like I said, you have to avoid the fad keto stuff that I luckily got in before it took off. Sounds like most people are only going off the dangerous/nonsensical fad keto stuff that all diets are subject to with enough popularity. Basic rule of thumb is if someone wants you to buy anything more than just food (supplement, pills, etc) stay away. Keto (the actual dietary principle) is just based on a different distribution of macronutrients when achieving your caloric deficit. I wasn’t trying to disparage IF, just offering the comment OP another option in his failed diet search.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Keto (the actual dietary principle) is just based on a different distribution of macronutrients when achieving your caloric deficit.

    Keto is any diet that maintains the metabolic state of ketosis. This can be done with overfeeding, underfeeding, fasting... and doesn't even require complete nutrition (though that is always a good idea).

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Sure, but keto says it totally fine to eat a steak and a stick of butter and nothing else. That doesn't seem sustainable.

    Also I've never met anyone that does keto that allows any carbs. I'm glad that apparently that's not the only way though.

    To be clear, I do not care if all you eat is steaks and butter. Not my business. Just trying to offer insight into the down votes. I don't think it's the IF crew doing it. It's probably people who are anti-keto.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago

    Sure, but keto says it totally fine to eat a steak and a stick of butter and nothing else. That doesn’t seem sustainable.

    Yet it is, we only need to look at the documented human populations that only had access to animal food before westernization. They sustained, even thrived.

    Also I’ve never met anyone that does keto that allows any carbs.

    Keto is just metabolic ketosis, any biological state while the body is producing detectable levels of blood ketones. Anyone can achieve it <20g carbs per day, and many people have higher tolerances (age, muscle mass, resting metabolic rate etc).

    Just trying to offer insight into the down votes. I don’t think it’s the IF crew doing it. It’s probably people who are anti-keto.

    Which includes you.... https://lemvotes.org/comment/sh.itjust.works/comment/23819049

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    You need fiber, friend. You. Need. Fiber.

    Citation please. As far as I've read fibre does two things:

    1. Anti-nutrient, when people eat terrible food fibre blunts it so it isn't as terrible by preventing some of the bad food absorption

    2. Fibre is digested by the gut into short-chain fatty acids (SCA / BHB) which get absorbed through the gut, and has a boost to health in the area of absorption. However, in a ketogenic context the liver is making Ketones (BHB) all the time which gets deposited into the blood stream being available to the entire body including the gut... so this benefit is only seen in a carbohydrate metabolism, and not in keto.

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