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[+] 24 points 1 year ago (29 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    You can show up to a protest armed to the fucking teeth without firing off a single round. That's how those anti lockdown fucks got what they wanted in 2020 (and one of many reasons why COVID exploded).

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I keep hearing this so often "they will take any opportunity to declare martial law" this so often its starting to sound like autogenocide

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    yeah, that's a weak reason against violent protests. stronger ones are:

    • the violence is often misdirected at people not able to bring change, eg. small businesses or cars.
    • the violence exhausts protesters. many of them being crippled or killed by police, until the protests are suppressed by too few motivated protesters being left.

    btw cops love violent protests. they get to kill maim and torture more people than usual. it's what many of them signed up for and look forward to with excitement. sometimes they have off duty cops in plain clothes infiltrating protesters to start the carnage. all it takes is throwing one stone near a collegue with shield and helmet to give him an excuse to go on a rampage against innocent protesters, while the infiltrator sneaks off

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    that's a weak reason against violent protests. stronger ones are:

    Non-violent ones are more effective, as per some study I saw a month or so back.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    There is an agenda in convincing people that non violence works. Take a real look at how unions and civil rights actually happened. The non violent get credit after the fact to control the narrative.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Hey where did they get that picture of me!?

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Better check your phone bro, I think they might be spying.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I really love this meme. The self-defeating attitude that's been perpetuated by team Dem of "We've tried nothing that could potentially be useful and are all out of ideas!” has been swallowed wholesale, by us. Will getting ourselves out of this trap be painful, disfiguring for some, deadly for others? Sure. The other option is self-suffocating, slowly. Drowning by self-waterboarding.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    We're already at the thoughtcrime stage...

    Funny how Republicans online were the ones crying about that, but now they're salivating at the idea of deporting Mamdani for the crime of being a socialist. Can't have those political opinions, that's wrongthink!

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (12 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    He calls himself one, do you have cause to doubt it?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I have cause to believe USA makes up their own meanings of words that has nothing to do with the rest of the world meaning. You can interpret that how you will.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I’m talking about Mamdani specifically though. Or are you just assuming that based on your feelings about the US in general?

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    And? I live here. I like Mamdani. That doesn't change the veracity of what I said. Perhaps your own feelings preclude that.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (5 children)

    I guess that’s a yes. I was genuinely curious to hear the case that he’s not a socialist but it doesn’t seem you have much basis for this opinion.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I know what socialism means. I wanted to hear your interpretation of the facts regarding Mamdani, since this is a contentious topic, and socialism is a broad tradition. But I see now it was a waste of time to expect serious discourse from you.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Good. Do your work bc I'm busy rn doing mine. Obviously that's the definition, which is obviously mine since reading about the US definition not being the definition is too much effort for you.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Last I heard, he was calling himself soc Dem or Dem soc, both of which uphold the capitalist class. He's proposing good work to make a few inroads but not proposing his potential constituency own the means of production which is the definition of socialism.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    For the record, he’s a democratic socialist, not a social democrat. These are distinct, though related movements. The difference between them, which you seem confused about, is that socialists do not uphold the capitalist class, despite your claims. Social democrats want to retain capitalism, while democratic socialists do not.

    However, democratic socialists do have differences of opinion with more radical socialists on the best way to achieve the socialized means of production they aim for. They favor reform over revolution.

    You are welcome to disagree with this view but it’s not a good reason to view their socialism as false or insincere.

    No need to reply, since we already established that you’re not interested in good faith discourse. But I couldn’t leave this misinformation unchallenged.

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