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[–] 2 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Incels didn't originate with 4chan, 4chan just gave them a more visible home than they had previously.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (6 children)

    Culturally? They absolutely did.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (5 children)

    By that logic nearly everything on the internet came from 4chan. Like, substantial parts of internet culture actually started on 4chan and bled outwards from there when the channers interacted with normies.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (4 children)

    I don't understand what you're saying. "Substantial parts of internet culture started on 4chan and bled outwards," yes, this is what I'm suggesting.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (3 children)

    Any definition in which incels originate from 4chan is so broad as to be meaningless. Basically every single part of Internet culture that didn't exist prior to 2003 or became more prevalent after 2003 would also originate from 4chan. All of it.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    I have no idea what you're talking about, man.

    4chan is (or was; relevancy) a place that fosters extremely negative and nihilistic views about the world and the self because it makes people much easier fruit to pluck for conservative aims. This includes incels. I have no idea what you're upset with me about.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    If something that had already existed for 6 years when 4chan first opened can be said to originate from 4chan, then what can't? Hell, large portions of internet culture as you know it for good or for ill were actually born out of the chaos of /b/, but your metric for "originating from 4chan" seems to be "do I think of it as negative and/or nihilistic, if yes then it must have originated from 4chan" rather than anything about where something actually started from.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Do you have a personal attachment to this issue or something?

    First of all, you could have just told me about Alana. Whatever, now I know about her, that's cool.

    Secondly, let's look at the terminology associated with incels for a second: chad, stacy, roastie, blue/red/black pill, foid, sexual market value, The Wall, mogging, lookism, looksmaxxing, bone smash theory, high T, soyboy, soyciety, beta-bux, beta orbiter, MGTOW, AWALT, branch-swinger, cock carousel, hypergamy, just-be-white, lay down and rot, ropefuel, hERo

    Now, I recognize that if we're going back to 1997, these will seem a bit anacronistic, but do you mean to tell me that Alana's website, a romantic struggle support group that she built "welcoming all genders," really has cultural ties to any of those terms above? That her website was the incubator for extremely pedophilic ideas such as "roastie" and "The Wall" are? I find that very hard to believe. But please, inform me.

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