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[+] -6 points 9 months ago (11 children)

How do you define imperialism if invading other countries with the same explicit intent to annex them isn’t it?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago*

    One of the reasons for this war was that the Russian Federation did not want NATO weapons and forces on their permanent border. If they were to annex Ukraine, they would have NATO weapons and forces on their permanent border. I understand why this narrative that they want to has spread, because it's an easy to understand "bad guy" thing that makes it simple to frame this war as some kind of random medieval war of conquest, but when you think about it for five minutes, annexing Ukraine would go completely against their goal, which is to either dissuade the coup government from it's NATO ambitions (now irrelevant) or, if they wont agree to a peace treaty, establish a buffer zone in the form of a Ukranian rump state. In no scenario does a full annexation serve their interests, and the pragmatic thing from their perspective is to let the basket case that Ukraine has become be Europe's peoblem.

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  • [+] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)
  • [+] -6 points 9 months ago

    If you pay attention to what Russia does internally and externally, Russia fulfills every one of those requirements except the last one (because they can’t, but they would be very happy too)

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Cowbee means economic imperialism - using the resources / wealth of another country for yourself. So invading another country would not, by itself, be imperialism.

    I think this definition is a bit reductionist, but it's a good starting point to ask 'is this war for profit or some other reason?'.

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    but it’s a good starting point to ask ‘is this war for profit or some other reason?’.

    Always an important question to ask but if Cowbee does mean that, then they should use the modifier to signify that they are talking about economic imperialism and not about Imperialism Imperialism.

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  • [+] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I do think your wording is causing some confusion. Of course, the aim of most imperialists is economic exploitation, but there historically there have been other drivers of conquest such as religion and racism.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    I think it's not too much to expect to know basic terminology in a leftist space. In Argentina I've met plenty of social democrats who understand imperialism in its leftist sense, because being in the periphery means you see the consequences of imperialism, and this is a country where like 99% of the media is owned by the comprador class or international capital making propaganda for austerity, meritocracy and other bullshit.

    If somebody doesn't understand why their definition of imperialism doesn't seem to be the one we use, maybe they can ask questions rather than interpret us in bad faith and so on.

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