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Decoding the hidden trade-offs of E2EE and usability (element.io)
submitted 9 months ago by to c/matrix@programming.dev
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[–] 4 points 9 months ago* (8 children)

E2EE does not demand tradeoffs. None of my other E2EE apps have tradeoffs. Only Matrix has problems.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Name the apps please, I'd like alternatives that don't overly compress my media or calls, restrict the type file files I send or the size.

    Seriously. I'm low on options here, and I loathe systems that mess with my stuff without my asking it to.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    I mean Signal is not my favorite but it's consistently easy to use and problem-free.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    At least for me it destroys image quality and calls are terribly over compressed, audio is painful to me. That's explicitly why I stopped using it as a default and am looking for others.

    I'm glad you find it good at least, as it's better than crap like Facebook Messenger, but I can't stand it as they run it now.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    I mean unencrypted platforms aren't perfect either but the vast majority of the time it's perfectly fine or very good. Maybe you have a connectivity issue.

    Do you not have these problems with Matrix as well?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Are any of your other e2ee apps decentralized while still using perfect forward secrecy?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Yes, XMPP, SimpleX, Keet, Briar, Meshtastic, etc.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (1 child)

    All of these have significant tradeoffs. So much so that i would not recommend them to normies, except for maybe Briar.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    All of these have significant tradeoffs.

    You're commenting in a thread about tradeoffs in Matrix so I'm not sure what your point is. Mine was that those particular tradeoffs don't exist in other messengers.

    So much so that i would not recommend them to normies

    LOL what? Why not?

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