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[–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 9 months ago (6 children) Europe struggles with agile, in my experience permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] linule@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (5 children) Agile is just one possible way to organize things and many developers don’t even like it or think that it improves productivity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 9 months ago (4 children) The company would have to be suitable for it. Force fitting the principles from agile manifesto isn't going to be useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] linule@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (3 children) Why exactly do you think that Europe‘s failure relates to agile? To me it seems more an incentive problem, which would be completely outside of software specific methodology permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 9 months ago (2 children) How Lack of Agile Ties to European Tech Limitations: Slower Time-to-Market: The tech industry demands high-speed, iterative, and "fail-fast" development cycles to dominate consumer markets. European firms tend to have slower product development cycles compared to US counterparts, often favoring long-term planning over rapid, iterative, and agile software development. Talent and Structural Rigidity: Rigid labor structures and high restructuring costs in Europe make it difficult to pivot, scale teams quickly, or adopt flexible, "sprint-based" agile approaches, unlike US firms that can rapidly restructure teams. "Middle Technology Trap" & Risk Aversion: Many European companies excel in mature technologies (e.g., traditional engineering) rather than the rapid, agile software development required for consumer internet platforms. This leads to a risk-averse culture, where firms hesitate to make the massive, risky investments in software that define US Big Tech. I didn't say it's the only factor, it's just one I've noticed. Other factors might be more important. At the end of the day, it's not like we can run experiments to see how the world evolves with different factors, in order to know precise causality and mechanisms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] linule@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Oh, that’s how you mean agile, as in opposed to rigidity, long term planning, bureaucracy, etc. in that sense you’re fully right. Though I imagine that much of it fades away if the incentives are right (e.g high pressure tends to weaken bureaucracy). There are other rapid/flexible methods without sprint planning, dailies, etc. but this might be a bit too detailed for the general idea here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 9 months ago Yes, that's right, agile in its general meaning. High pressure could change things but it needs to lead to permanent changes in incentive structures, as pressures come and go too fast. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] linule@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (5 children) Agile is just one possible way to organize things and many developers don’t even like it or think that it improves productivity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 9 months ago (4 children) The company would have to be suitable for it. Force fitting the principles from agile manifesto isn't going to be useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] linule@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (3 children) Why exactly do you think that Europe‘s failure relates to agile? To me it seems more an incentive problem, which would be completely outside of software specific methodology permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 9 months ago (2 children) How Lack of Agile Ties to European Tech Limitations: Slower Time-to-Market: The tech industry demands high-speed, iterative, and "fail-fast" development cycles to dominate consumer markets. European firms tend to have slower product development cycles compared to US counterparts, often favoring long-term planning over rapid, iterative, and agile software development. Talent and Structural Rigidity: Rigid labor structures and high restructuring costs in Europe make it difficult to pivot, scale teams quickly, or adopt flexible, "sprint-based" agile approaches, unlike US firms that can rapidly restructure teams. "Middle Technology Trap" & Risk Aversion: Many European companies excel in mature technologies (e.g., traditional engineering) rather than the rapid, agile software development required for consumer internet platforms. This leads to a risk-averse culture, where firms hesitate to make the massive, risky investments in software that define US Big Tech. I didn't say it's the only factor, it's just one I've noticed. Other factors might be more important. At the end of the day, it's not like we can run experiments to see how the world evolves with different factors, in order to know precise causality and mechanisms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] linule@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Oh, that’s how you mean agile, as in opposed to rigidity, long term planning, bureaucracy, etc. in that sense you’re fully right. Though I imagine that much of it fades away if the incentives are right (e.g high pressure tends to weaken bureaucracy). There are other rapid/flexible methods without sprint planning, dailies, etc. but this might be a bit too detailed for the general idea here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 9 months ago Yes, that's right, agile in its general meaning. High pressure could change things but it needs to lead to permanent changes in incentive structures, as pressures come and go too fast. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 9 months ago (4 children) The company would have to be suitable for it. Force fitting the principles from agile manifesto isn't going to be useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] linule@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (3 children) Why exactly do you think that Europe‘s failure relates to agile? To me it seems more an incentive problem, which would be completely outside of software specific methodology permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 9 months ago (2 children) How Lack of Agile Ties to European Tech Limitations: Slower Time-to-Market: The tech industry demands high-speed, iterative, and "fail-fast" development cycles to dominate consumer markets. European firms tend to have slower product development cycles compared to US counterparts, often favoring long-term planning over rapid, iterative, and agile software development. Talent and Structural Rigidity: Rigid labor structures and high restructuring costs in Europe make it difficult to pivot, scale teams quickly, or adopt flexible, "sprint-based" agile approaches, unlike US firms that can rapidly restructure teams. "Middle Technology Trap" & Risk Aversion: Many European companies excel in mature technologies (e.g., traditional engineering) rather than the rapid, agile software development required for consumer internet platforms. This leads to a risk-averse culture, where firms hesitate to make the massive, risky investments in software that define US Big Tech. I didn't say it's the only factor, it's just one I've noticed. Other factors might be more important. At the end of the day, it's not like we can run experiments to see how the world evolves with different factors, in order to know precise causality and mechanisms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] linule@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Oh, that’s how you mean agile, as in opposed to rigidity, long term planning, bureaucracy, etc. in that sense you’re fully right. Though I imagine that much of it fades away if the incentives are right (e.g high pressure tends to weaken bureaucracy). There are other rapid/flexible methods without sprint planning, dailies, etc. but this might be a bit too detailed for the general idea here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 9 months ago Yes, that's right, agile in its general meaning. High pressure could change things but it needs to lead to permanent changes in incentive structures, as pressures come and go too fast. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] linule@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (3 children) Why exactly do you think that Europe‘s failure relates to agile? To me it seems more an incentive problem, which would be completely outside of software specific methodology permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 9 months ago (2 children) How Lack of Agile Ties to European Tech Limitations: Slower Time-to-Market: The tech industry demands high-speed, iterative, and "fail-fast" development cycles to dominate consumer markets. European firms tend to have slower product development cycles compared to US counterparts, often favoring long-term planning over rapid, iterative, and agile software development. Talent and Structural Rigidity: Rigid labor structures and high restructuring costs in Europe make it difficult to pivot, scale teams quickly, or adopt flexible, "sprint-based" agile approaches, unlike US firms that can rapidly restructure teams. "Middle Technology Trap" & Risk Aversion: Many European companies excel in mature technologies (e.g., traditional engineering) rather than the rapid, agile software development required for consumer internet platforms. This leads to a risk-averse culture, where firms hesitate to make the massive, risky investments in software that define US Big Tech. I didn't say it's the only factor, it's just one I've noticed. Other factors might be more important. At the end of the day, it's not like we can run experiments to see how the world evolves with different factors, in order to know precise causality and mechanisms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] linule@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Oh, that’s how you mean agile, as in opposed to rigidity, long term planning, bureaucracy, etc. in that sense you’re fully right. Though I imagine that much of it fades away if the incentives are right (e.g high pressure tends to weaken bureaucracy). There are other rapid/flexible methods without sprint planning, dailies, etc. but this might be a bit too detailed for the general idea here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 9 months ago Yes, that's right, agile in its general meaning. High pressure could change things but it needs to lead to permanent changes in incentive structures, as pressures come and go too fast. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 9 months ago (2 children) How Lack of Agile Ties to European Tech Limitations: Slower Time-to-Market: The tech industry demands high-speed, iterative, and "fail-fast" development cycles to dominate consumer markets. European firms tend to have slower product development cycles compared to US counterparts, often favoring long-term planning over rapid, iterative, and agile software development. Talent and Structural Rigidity: Rigid labor structures and high restructuring costs in Europe make it difficult to pivot, scale teams quickly, or adopt flexible, "sprint-based" agile approaches, unlike US firms that can rapidly restructure teams. "Middle Technology Trap" & Risk Aversion: Many European companies excel in mature technologies (e.g., traditional engineering) rather than the rapid, agile software development required for consumer internet platforms. This leads to a risk-averse culture, where firms hesitate to make the massive, risky investments in software that define US Big Tech. I didn't say it's the only factor, it's just one I've noticed. Other factors might be more important. At the end of the day, it's not like we can run experiments to see how the world evolves with different factors, in order to know precise causality and mechanisms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] linule@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Oh, that’s how you mean agile, as in opposed to rigidity, long term planning, bureaucracy, etc. in that sense you’re fully right. Though I imagine that much of it fades away if the incentives are right (e.g high pressure tends to weaken bureaucracy). There are other rapid/flexible methods without sprint planning, dailies, etc. but this might be a bit too detailed for the general idea here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 9 months ago Yes, that's right, agile in its general meaning. High pressure could change things but it needs to lead to permanent changes in incentive structures, as pressures come and go too fast. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] linule@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Oh, that’s how you mean agile, as in opposed to rigidity, long term planning, bureaucracy, etc. in that sense you’re fully right. Though I imagine that much of it fades away if the incentives are right (e.g high pressure tends to weaken bureaucracy). There are other rapid/flexible methods without sprint planning, dailies, etc. but this might be a bit too detailed for the general idea here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 9 months ago Yes, that's right, agile in its general meaning. High pressure could change things but it needs to lead to permanent changes in incentive structures, as pressures come and go too fast. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 9 months ago Yes, that's right, agile in its general meaning. High pressure could change things but it needs to lead to permanent changes in incentive structures, as pressures come and go too fast. permalink fedilink source parent