▲ 29 ▼ Mozilla [claims to be] building an AI ‘rebel alliance’ to take on OpenAI, Anthropic (www.cnbc.com) submitted 9 months ago by dantheclamman@lemmy.world to c/firefox@lemmy.world 20 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 45 points 9 months ago (7 children) By that, they mean they're forming a group to oppose AI, right? ...Right??? ... ... permalink fedilink source hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world [S] 22 points 9 months ago Anakin_padme.jpg permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vincent@feddit.nl 9 points 9 months ago (3 children) Reading the article, I think at least to oppose centralised players that DoS the internet, congest our electricity infrastructure and pollute the environment, and try to bypass democracy through regulatory capture. That captures quite a few of the dark sides of the current AI hype that I'm unhappy about, so let's hope that works out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eleijeep@piefed.social 8 points 9 months ago (2 children) How do they propose to fight bot-crawlers, environmental damage and regulatory capture by creating more AI? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 4 points 9 months ago The only alternative to bad AI is, according to Mozilla, more AI. But good AI, wholesome AI. With more guardrails, so the stormtroopers stop falling off catwalks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vincent@feddit.nl 2 points 9 months ago* Steelmanning the argument, I'd say: you could outcompete the companies doing those things, e.g. by giving people AI that runs on their device and is ethically trained. It might seem hard to compete at the moment, but given that there'd be no costs to running them, I don't think it's necessarily impossible: even if the quality is lower, it's very hard to beat free. Hopefully, if the OpenAIs of this world go bankrupt, they'll stop hammering, say, OpenStreetMap. permalink fedilink source parent [–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) The nonprofit, also the parent of Firefox, is investing in artificial intelligence startups that are working on safety and governance issues in AI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago thatsthejoke.gif permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world [S] 22 points 9 months ago Anakin_padme.jpg permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 9 points 9 months ago (3 children) Reading the article, I think at least to oppose centralised players that DoS the internet, congest our electricity infrastructure and pollute the environment, and try to bypass democracy through regulatory capture. That captures quite a few of the dark sides of the current AI hype that I'm unhappy about, so let's hope that works out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] eleijeep@piefed.social 8 points 9 months ago (2 children) How do they propose to fight bot-crawlers, environmental damage and regulatory capture by creating more AI? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 4 points 9 months ago The only alternative to bad AI is, according to Mozilla, more AI. But good AI, wholesome AI. With more guardrails, so the stormtroopers stop falling off catwalks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vincent@feddit.nl 2 points 9 months ago* Steelmanning the argument, I'd say: you could outcompete the companies doing those things, e.g. by giving people AI that runs on their device and is ethically trained. It might seem hard to compete at the moment, but given that there'd be no costs to running them, I don't think it's necessarily impossible: even if the quality is lower, it's very hard to beat free. Hopefully, if the OpenAIs of this world go bankrupt, they'll stop hammering, say, OpenStreetMap. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 8 points 9 months ago (2 children) How do they propose to fight bot-crawlers, environmental damage and regulatory capture by creating more AI? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 4 points 9 months ago The only alternative to bad AI is, according to Mozilla, more AI. But good AI, wholesome AI. With more guardrails, so the stormtroopers stop falling off catwalks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vincent@feddit.nl 2 points 9 months ago* Steelmanning the argument, I'd say: you could outcompete the companies doing those things, e.g. by giving people AI that runs on their device and is ethically trained. It might seem hard to compete at the moment, but given that there'd be no costs to running them, I don't think it's necessarily impossible: even if the quality is lower, it's very hard to beat free. Hopefully, if the OpenAIs of this world go bankrupt, they'll stop hammering, say, OpenStreetMap. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social 4 points 9 months ago The only alternative to bad AI is, according to Mozilla, more AI. But good AI, wholesome AI. With more guardrails, so the stormtroopers stop falling off catwalks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 2 points 9 months ago* Steelmanning the argument, I'd say: you could outcompete the companies doing those things, e.g. by giving people AI that runs on their device and is ethically trained. It might seem hard to compete at the moment, but given that there'd be no costs to running them, I don't think it's necessarily impossible: even if the quality is lower, it's very hard to beat free. Hopefully, if the OpenAIs of this world go bankrupt, they'll stop hammering, say, OpenStreetMap. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) The nonprofit, also the parent of Firefox, is investing in artificial intelligence startups that are working on safety and governance issues in AI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago thatsthejoke.gif permalink fedilink source parent
[–] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago thatsthejoke.gif permalink fedilink source parent