▲ 247 ▼ Facial recognition to be rolled out nationwide in major police reforms (www.standard.co.uk) submitted 9 months ago by ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online to c/technology@lemmy.world 42 comments fedilink hide all child comments It is kinda nuts that the alleged warnings of the past were just priming us into thinking it is all ok for them to do.
[+] U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 14 points 9 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online [S] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children) I hate to say it, but I remember around 2000 the UK being called the most surveilled country in Europe due to massive numbers of cameras. I thought it was bad back then, but I had no idea how much worse it would be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) Until Flock, the vast majority of those cameras were privately owned and not integrated into any larger network. If the police wanted camera data, they had to ask businesses or homeowners, and there was no regulation of data retention, so if they wiped their recordings after 48 hours, there was nothing the police could do about it. It's the aggregators of that data that are the real risk, not doorbell cams or shopkeepers trying to limit shoplifting or vandalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online [S] 1 point 9 months ago Yeah, that was the thing. Most people still used VHS tapes back then and many would just reuse the same few tapes over and over, meaning footage from one day would be gone in a few days and since tape degrades eventually the footage will look like shit anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online [S] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children) I hate to say it, but I remember around 2000 the UK being called the most surveilled country in Europe due to massive numbers of cameras. I thought it was bad back then, but I had no idea how much worse it would be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) Until Flock, the vast majority of those cameras were privately owned and not integrated into any larger network. If the police wanted camera data, they had to ask businesses or homeowners, and there was no regulation of data retention, so if they wiped their recordings after 48 hours, there was nothing the police could do about it. It's the aggregators of that data that are the real risk, not doorbell cams or shopkeepers trying to limit shoplifting or vandalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online [S] 1 point 9 months ago Yeah, that was the thing. Most people still used VHS tapes back then and many would just reuse the same few tapes over and over, meaning footage from one day would be gone in a few days and since tape degrades eventually the footage will look like shit anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) Until Flock, the vast majority of those cameras were privately owned and not integrated into any larger network. If the police wanted camera data, they had to ask businesses or homeowners, and there was no regulation of data retention, so if they wiped their recordings after 48 hours, there was nothing the police could do about it. It's the aggregators of that data that are the real risk, not doorbell cams or shopkeepers trying to limit shoplifting or vandalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online [S] 1 point 9 months ago Yeah, that was the thing. Most people still used VHS tapes back then and many would just reuse the same few tapes over and over, meaning footage from one day would be gone in a few days and since tape degrades eventually the footage will look like shit anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online [S] 1 point 9 months ago Yeah, that was the thing. Most people still used VHS tapes back then and many would just reuse the same few tapes over and over, meaning footage from one day would be gone in a few days and since tape degrades eventually the footage will look like shit anyway. permalink fedilink source parent