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Abolish ICE is a political movement seeking the abolition of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency (en.wikipedia.org)
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[–] 5 points 9 months ago (7 children)

I would advise if you're feeling overwhelmed to use some of the plentiful filter tools built into Lemmy and its associated apps. This is a major benefit of the fediverse in general. But in these times we have a duty to allow folks to have a voice. -the mods

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Yes, yes, I understand your arguments. But I also think you know what's going on here. This platform hosts a lot of users who happen to be US progressives, they're angry and frustrated about the news and looking for somewhere to vent. The myriad more appropriate communities they frequent are already overflowing, so they come here too. 3 posts about this one US-specific news story in a place intended for discussion of Wikipedia articles! You know that's too many. I am not the only one frustrated with this problem - see the discussion I linked to up-thread.

    Sure, the fediverse grants tools to deal with the issue. But is that a recipe for the fediverse's success, really? "Sure, it's a hellhole but once you've spent 3 months blocking and filtering everyone and everything, it's great." Surely it would be simpler if moderators just tried to get up the courage to moderate.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Sorry, it's not going to happen. Moderation does not mean 'happy happy joy joy, insulate you from the world around you'. I don't think three articles about the leading topic in global news is too many. The majority of our users agree (we've had no complaints other than yours and those articles are also the most upvoted). I suggest that you found your own community: 'Wikipedia_nopolitics'. We have had multiple people split off and make their own wikipedia communities when they've had different objections and we welcome it; another benefit of the fediverse. Best of luck to you.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago

    You're missing my basic point. I think your utopia of everyone having their own filter bubble is actually a dystopia. And I'm not complaining about "politics", I'm complaining about 3 articles on a single incident of US politics in one day. If America is the world then maybe you should rename this community "Wikipedia_US". Sure, "nobody" but me is complaining but you can see that a few agree with me and there are a good few others in !fediverse@lemmy.world.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Surely it would be simpler if moderators just tried to get up the courage to moderate.

    Explain.

    You have the entirety of the rules at your disposal. What rule has anyone broken, that I have personally neglected out of cowardice.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    See my replies to the other mod.

    It's true that no rule has been broken, but moderators have the discretion to reject submissions that add nothing to a community. Again: 3 posts on this single incident in one day, in this community - which is not dedicated to the USA or to politics let alone to both - is too much. I refuse to believe you can't see that. So... courage.

    I've made my point.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    You've made a point, but I'm not sure you're making the right point in the right community.

    In the past day, eighteen posts were made.

    The three objectionable ones, which I'm assuming were The Killing of Alex Pretti, the List of Shootings by US Immigration agents in the second Trump presidency, and Abolish ICE, are three separate but related topics directly targeting insane abuses of power brought around by the current regime.

    3/18= 17%

    Add in a few other US leaning and political posts (including the Little Eichmanns post that I'm offended that you're not including in your screed), and it's a quarter of the posts, from a bad day for America.

    The other wiki communities share the message as well- !wikipedia@lemmy.ml and !wikipedia@sh.itjust.works are also hosting the same top three Objectionable Topics, which might add to your sense of overwhelm.

    I won't pull down valid submissions for the same reason I don't give you a 24 hour ban when you get trolly and obstinate in the comments. I want people to see, and make up their own minds.

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