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Cyberpunk 2077 VR Modder Hit by Another DMCA Strike, Pauses Patreon, Pulls Access to All His Mods, and Declares He's 'Under Attack' (www.ign.com)
submitted 9 months ago by to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca
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Looks like the Ghostrunner developers also have an issue with paid mods running off their IP.

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[–] 10 points 9 months ago (14 children)

If you want to make money for your effort, Dev a game. The idea that you should be able to piggyback off the work of another dev team and profit from it is BS. It's like saying you should be allowed to walk into Starbucks and start selling custom mugs to their active customers; no way they would allow that

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago

    Why? If I'm a mechanic and upgrade a car that someone else made you wouldn't care at all. I've always thought it was crazy that people act so entitled to software being free.

    Hell cyberpunk itself wouldn't exist if it weren't for decades of work by Windows and console devs. Everything is built on top of someone else's work so I don't buy that as a reason for modders to go uncompensated.

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  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    You people live in a fantasy world, how the does one who can't make a game make a game. That's a lot of work, what is the issue with piggybacking from another ones work if it benefits both parties.

    Give me a scenario where it hurts the original developers, a real scenario.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    I don't really care about the developers tbh, what I care about is the community, and paid mods hurt the community. Well-received mods have always been thanked by donations, and there's nothing stopping that system from continuing today, but the idea of monetizing the community sandbox is toxic and should be wholly rejected.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    In what way was it good for the community when they removed the mods that you had to pay for? It's not like the developers of the mods will do it for free, and no is stopping you from making a free version of said mods.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    If they won't do it for the love of the game, then they aren't part of the community.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    How is wanting to get paid and loving the game mutual exclusive. They are more part of the community than 99% of the community, you make it sound like it's easy, they have invested their own time and skills to make mods that people are willing to pay for.

    Stop being so judgemental, you don't know them or why they are developing mods. Maybe they want to make a living or extra money by working on something they like. You don't have to buy the mods they develop if you don't like paying for mods or if it goes against your own principals. They aren't trying to force you to buy their mods. I myself never play games with mods, because it's a hassle and doesn't make my gaming experience any better.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Maybe they want to make a living or extra money by working on something they like.

    Exactly the problem. I don't want my hobby spaces to be filled with entrepreneurs looking for a revenue stream, I want them filled with people who love the hobby enough to sacrifice for it. And when those spaces do get filled with money-makers, it pushes the people with the actual passion out because they aren't interested in competing in another fucking competitive capitalist space.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    You want everyone else to make sacrifices but not you, you just want shit for free. What competition exists in the modding community? No one is stopping you from or anyone else from making a VR mod for cyberpunk for free. Surely it would be more popular than the paid version, but why doesn't it exist? Because it requires maintenance and active development and knowledge about how VR works, and no one is interested in spending that time making a free VR mod for cyberpunk, you would have to be an autists to feel it's time worth spending.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (5 children)

    If you can't see how paid mods have already enormously increased toxicity in the modding scene, you're either blind or ignorant. And people will always make things they love for free. Graffiti will always exist. There's no reason to pretend art will only exist for the profit motive, or that it is better for it.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Yes and so what, toxicity exists in any community you goof, I don't know what your point is. That paying for stuff is bad, or asking to be paid for your work is bad, or wanting money is bad.

    You lack empathy towards people who make mods, what if it's their only source of income, what if they spend a lot of time making the mod as good as possible so you will want to pay for it. Jesus Christ you're some kind of idealist there's no grayzone everything is the extreme with you

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    If they want an income source they should find a job.

    Sometimes are sacred, and the community sandbox should never become a sales floor.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Dude you are exhausting, you live in a fantasy world.

    Unlike you people try to find work they enjoy, either you haven't worked a day in your life, or you are jealous of people having a better job than you.

    You can't even fathom that some people are not employable, there's 1000s of reasons why some people can't hold a regular job or find a employer that will employ them. But hey, fuck them right

    You don't own or get to decide what people can sell or not, your talking about some fucking community that is filled with shit as is, and I would bet my life on that you don't even contribute to said community that you hold so dear. You're just a leech, prove me wrong.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I have no interest in "proving" anything to you, but I have contributed to the scene for literal decades in both my talents and funding.

    There are a hundred other revenue streams that don't require turning the sandbox into a sales floor. Go do one of those. Or don't, just don't assume that we're all going to be okay with it.

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