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abolish the police (quokk.au)
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[–] 10 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Yeah, no

This organization is happening because things are BAD, in case you haven't been paying attention.

People shouldn't bhave to do this in the first place if you have a well organized well trained police force that actually does what police is supposed to be doing

Don't abolish police, rebuild it from the ground up until it's something actually useful

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Wrong, ACAB.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    What's your reasoning for ACAB?

    Usually, the argument goes something like: cops are selected for and trained to default on violence to control (most) situations they encounter, and are given license to use it in excess. If you passed that selection process and went through the training, you have shown yourself willing to default to violence. Hence, bastard.

    But PP is describing the police doing what they are supposed to be doing, i.e. protecting people. If they were doing that, they wouldn't be using the excessive violence I just described, therefore no ACAB?

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    I say ACAB becuase their incentives dont align with helping the public.

    1. Cops will always help each other first at the expenses of everything else.

    2. Cops have qualified immunity, which corrupts their behavior.

    3. The SC ruled that cops have no duty to protect, they are only required to investigate and arrest after the incident. See the tragedy in Uvalde.

    4. there is no check and balance agaisnt the police. If they are suspected of mis-conduct, they invistigate themselves (see point 1).

    So, cops cant get in trouble, and have no duty to protect anyone, and wont rat each other out. Seems like an environment ripe for corruption and laziness.

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