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A maga person has just threatened my family, what's to do next? (lemmy.world)
submitted 9 months ago by to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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I got in a political argument with some clown on Facebook. He managed to retrieve my wife's cell phone number and our home phone which is unlisted and technically just provided by our Internet company that we never use.

None our personal info is really available on Facebook and our profiles are pretty locked down, but he called my wife's phone a few times last week which she has blocked and never answers. Comes up as anonymous on her id.

He tried our home phone 16 times which I ignored, everything stopped, he called again tonight. I decided to answer. He said he knows where I live my wife and daughters name, and our address. He never gave out that though and that he is coming to kill us. Said that on the line

I have called my local police department. But this is rural Nebraska they said they can't do anything or have our phone companies run a trace.

Is there anything I can do to figure out who this guy is?

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[โ€“] 1 point 9 months ago* (4 children)

You don't get it. It's not about just one camera. They have the whole network and can run facial recognition and licence plate readers (that go well beyond just reading plates) across all of it. They don't just know that you left your house, they can track everywhere you go. Some courts have made that illegal for cops to do, so they just outsourced it.

Your camera is just a small piece, but it's a piece you control. Nobody should be throwing that shit up to the cloud. It's incredibly damaging to any kind of civil resistance movement. Stalin could only have dreamed of the kind of mass surveillance that Americans are just freely providing to our oligarchy. It's fucking dumb.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 9 months ago* (3 children)

    This is a flawed argument. Your walking around with a phone in ur pocket, they don't need your camera to track you. That and just about every intersection has a camera on it. The network to track you has so many more data points than my ring camera. They track every penny you spend, where you work, where you buy groceries, the porn you watch. Yea my camera is contributing to mass surveillance, but as long as you own a cell phone getting rid of your ring camera isn't going to help you the way you might think. If you want to stop mass surveillance you need to boondock on public lands. Once you own anything and get connected to the internet, it's game over!

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    I choose to carry my phone in my pocket, and I can choose not to carry it. I can even choose to have someone else carry it north while I go south.

    I can go anywhere in my city on foot or a bike and be entirely untracked by anything, except those damn doorbell cameras. At most I might be picked up by a traffic camera or two, but I can do any number of things to not be recognized, but not if they can follow my movements back to my house. Those cameras fill the last gaps of untracked freedom of movement.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    While I see your point, I will say there is no such thing as freedom of movement in any city anymore. Every business you pass, every intersection, every few street lamps (depending on ur city) will be monitored by camera. Every major roadway is camera monitored in or out of a city (check ur local 411 traffic cams). In any urban area trying to minimize your contribution to mass surveillance is in vain, it's already been taken care of by the govt and businesses and what we consume! It just seems to be a product of being in a technologically advanced society. What needs to happen is more restrictions on those performing the mass surveillance, although I doubt they'd listen even if our govt tried to restrict them.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 9 months ago

    The existence of cameras and the linking of those cameras to a central monitoring system are two very different things. Ring cameras are part of that system. Most business and even traffic cameras are not.

    As I said, I'm pretty confident I can get anywhere in my small city without being identified, except through tracking of my path that would only be possible because of ring cameras.

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