▲ 105 ▼ NordVPN denies breach claims, says attackers have "dummy data" (www.bleepingcomputer.com) submitted 10 months ago by fne8w2ah@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 27 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 7 points 10 months ago (8 children) So for selling it to aggregators? You really think thats the primary function for user data? Not like, billing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] Lembot_0006@programming.dev -7 points 10 months ago (7 children) Billing? ID -> balance. "Very" important data for hackers. They had more? Like card numbers, names, addresses, etc? That's a bad practice for VPN providers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children) You are surprised that a for-profit company that bills people on a RECURRING basis for a paid service keeps card numbers and billing addresses/names? How would recurring bills be paid if the info isn't stored? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lembot_0006@programming.dev -4 points 10 months ago (1 child) You are surprised I'm not surprised. I am accustomed to the shit around. How would recurring bills be paid if the info isn’t stored? Just go to the bank (or open your bank application on the phone) and pay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago* This is not how most people operate around subscription services. People expect that the online subscription service will manage that shit. Less secure I know, but you live either in the past or in a much higher risk environment than most. permalink fedilink source parent [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 1 point 10 months ago* (3 children) How do they send you your invoice? Password resets? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Mulvad gives you a 16 digit random number when you sign up. Anyone with that number can use that account, it's on you to not lose it, if you do you have to make a new account. You send them money and an account number and they add balance to that account. When it's out, that account is blocked from service until they get more money. You hack their service and you get a list of numbers and whether or not they have service. They keep no documentation and if you pay with card you have to manually input every time. I know them better than they know their users. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Lembot_0006@programming.dev -6 points 10 months ago (1 child) The customer can notify ID during payment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 10 months ago I'm not sure what you mean by that... permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Lembot_0006@programming.dev -7 points 10 months ago (7 children) Billing? ID -> balance. "Very" important data for hackers. They had more? Like card numbers, names, addresses, etc? That's a bad practice for VPN providers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children) You are surprised that a for-profit company that bills people on a RECURRING basis for a paid service keeps card numbers and billing addresses/names? How would recurring bills be paid if the info isn't stored? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lembot_0006@programming.dev -4 points 10 months ago (1 child) You are surprised I'm not surprised. I am accustomed to the shit around. How would recurring bills be paid if the info isn’t stored? Just go to the bank (or open your bank application on the phone) and pay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago* This is not how most people operate around subscription services. People expect that the online subscription service will manage that shit. Less secure I know, but you live either in the past or in a much higher risk environment than most. permalink fedilink source parent [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 1 point 10 months ago* (3 children) How do they send you your invoice? Password resets? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Mulvad gives you a 16 digit random number when you sign up. Anyone with that number can use that account, it's on you to not lose it, if you do you have to make a new account. You send them money and an account number and they add balance to that account. When it's out, that account is blocked from service until they get more money. You hack their service and you get a list of numbers and whether or not they have service. They keep no documentation and if you pay with card you have to manually input every time. I know them better than they know their users. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Lembot_0006@programming.dev -6 points 10 months ago (1 child) The customer can notify ID during payment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 10 months ago I'm not sure what you mean by that... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children) You are surprised that a for-profit company that bills people on a RECURRING basis for a paid service keeps card numbers and billing addresses/names? How would recurring bills be paid if the info isn't stored? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lembot_0006@programming.dev -4 points 10 months ago (1 child) You are surprised I'm not surprised. I am accustomed to the shit around. How would recurring bills be paid if the info isn’t stored? Just go to the bank (or open your bank application on the phone) and pay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago* This is not how most people operate around subscription services. People expect that the online subscription service will manage that shit. Less secure I know, but you live either in the past or in a much higher risk environment than most. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lembot_0006@programming.dev -4 points 10 months ago (1 child) You are surprised I'm not surprised. I am accustomed to the shit around. How would recurring bills be paid if the info isn’t stored? Just go to the bank (or open your bank application on the phone) and pay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago* This is not how most people operate around subscription services. People expect that the online subscription service will manage that shit. Less secure I know, but you live either in the past or in a much higher risk environment than most. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago* This is not how most people operate around subscription services. People expect that the online subscription service will manage that shit. Less secure I know, but you live either in the past or in a much higher risk environment than most. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 1 point 10 months ago* (3 children) How do they send you your invoice? Password resets? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Mulvad gives you a 16 digit random number when you sign up. Anyone with that number can use that account, it's on you to not lose it, if you do you have to make a new account. You send them money and an account number and they add balance to that account. When it's out, that account is blocked from service until they get more money. You hack their service and you get a list of numbers and whether or not they have service. They keep no documentation and if you pay with card you have to manually input every time. I know them better than they know their users. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Lembot_0006@programming.dev -6 points 10 months ago (1 child) The customer can notify ID during payment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 10 months ago I'm not sure what you mean by that... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Mulvad gives you a 16 digit random number when you sign up. Anyone with that number can use that account, it's on you to not lose it, if you do you have to make a new account. You send them money and an account number and they add balance to that account. When it's out, that account is blocked from service until they get more money. You hack their service and you get a list of numbers and whether or not they have service. They keep no documentation and if you pay with card you have to manually input every time. I know them better than they know their users. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Lembot_0006@programming.dev -6 points 10 months ago (1 child) The customer can notify ID during payment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 10 months ago I'm not sure what you mean by that... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 10 months ago I'm not sure what you mean by that... permalink fedilink source parent