taygaloocat comments on History will not be kind to the USA

[–] taygaloocat@leminal.space 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Don't forget that history is written by the victors.

[–] guismo@aussie.zone 2 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

Yup. People forget that whatever the Nazis did, we only see them in a bad way is because they lost. Their enemies are making the movies and TV series we consume to this day.

Unless an actual enemy of the us defeats them, they will never be seen as villains. Even if they lose a lot of power but one of their allies takes over.

England committed countless atrocities and while that is known, they are not seen as villains. They are not in power anymore but their ally is. Even Israel can be a thousand times worse than Nazis, as long as they remain in the winning group they will be forever the poor victim of antisemitism defending itself against evil.

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[–] DeepSpace9mm@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

Well, a lot of the nazi leadership didn't lose, at least not personally. I don't know about former nazi or nazi descendant historians specifically, but I doubt the thousands of nazis who escaped via ratlines engaged in zero whitewashing. Hell, just look at us corporate ties to nazi germany which alone gives the us reason to obscure parts of the history.

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[–] guismo@aussie.zone 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

The regime lost. They went into hiding or ran away. It's not necessary for every single person related to a group to be killed for it to lose.

The soviet union lost. Nazis lost. The Ottoman empire lost. England, Spain, Portugal didn't lose to an enemy but their empires died. One group is always thought as evil in western education, the other is not.

The united states need to be properly defeated for the next winners to see the American atrocities in a proper light.

But I would be already happy with just their empire fading away and only lies remaining in school books.

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[–] DeepSpace9mm@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago

"They went into hiding or ran away."

Yeah, they ran away to POSITIONS OF POWER. Just like the American Confederacy, the defeated belligerent was not sufficiently snuffed out after the official victory.

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