I'm well aware of US history. I'm only making the contrast between who I want punished right now. I don't think regular folks with working brains should pay for the sins of the few. Does that clear things up?

Sure, America has been a pretty shitass state for a while. But when you say it shouldn't exist, do you mean that it's state and power structures should be completely demolished and reworked, with the general population and working class minimally harmed, or should it's people also be removed? Because former is really fucking hard, but would be really good, and the latter is just bad.

The problem people have with 'death to amerikkka' is that they value the people of America, and it's culture. (Though there is something to be said for the culture being imperialist as well.) The mechanics of how the American empire could actually fall are pretty damn messy.

And as horrific as 1 in 5 is to imagine, look at the Georgia Guidestones (~ Oh, that's right. You can't, any more, because someone blew it up). If following the crazy billionaire club's depopulation plan depicted on the Georgia Guidestones, that's nearer 19 in 20. Imagine 20 people you know... 1 of them survives. That's their plan. (And probably an order of magnitude worse, to give themselves more breeding headroom).

Or... Maybe they care (/s) and they're going to give us (/s!) each the spaceships they've been keeping secreted from us from over 175 years of technological development sequestering^1^. And that's how they'll reach the Georgia Guidestones target. :3

... Or maybe we have to take it and provision it to each other ourselves. We have so much headroom without the crooks. Aint about the countries. That's just what they use to keep us divided and conquered by. How about we stop falling for it.

^1^ Inertial dampening tech started being developed and deployed on hot air balloons in the early to mid 1800s!? Huh. Who knew? High frequency faraday cages, eh? Cool. Imagine putting that around something safe in the vacuum of space instead of a hot air balloon... once the field has the inertia dampened to zero, that's almost no energy at all required to go accelerate rrrrrrrly fast. And turn and stop really fast too. Wont feel lit. And can have a broader field cause an emergency stop instantly if you ever get too close to anything. I hear they've long since developed the tech so these spaceships can print another of themselves instantly... So wait, we can emancipate everybody, avail all space to everybody, yet still they're doing a pantomime of resource wars, and professing there are too many people here and thus need to be culled? wat

Basically this exactly, you said it better than I could!

IF they were actually made to pay for their crimes with the currently defined punishments, it would absolutely do a lot to sort it out. Publicly executing everyone involved in their treason would be a great deterrent.

But that's a really big if.