alekwithak comments on Dick gets Tarred

I was too lazy to make it but I was thinking earlier today of doing a "I hate nutrek because it's derivative and centrist, you hate it because you are a nazi, we are not the same" meme. (Not that I'm calling you a nazi, this was just an idea I had, not directed at you)

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[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Only idiots dislike it for that reason. I dislike it because of its atrocious writing, and its attempts to be progressive are incredibly shallow because the writers are out of touch hollywood socialites.

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[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I've been rewatching TOS. Atrocious writing, you say?

What do you think is shallow about their attempts at being progressive? Having multiple POC and LGBTQ characters, including a married couple seems like the next logical step for the series and is still fairly progressive for a mainstream sci-fi series. Even The Orville, which I've heard people say is better than nutrek, is barely as progressive as even TNG. What did they do wrong with these characters? Genuinely. My main issue with nutrek is the melodrama. So many times while watching Discovery my wife and I would be saying to the screen "You're all about to die, you can hug cry and talk later!"

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[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Just having POC and LGBTQ representation isn't all that's needed to deliver a progressive message. You also need to incorporate plotlines that thoughtfully explore themes related to their modern-day struggles. Old trek, namely TNG and DS9, did this well because they had writers that were genuinely progressive for their time (and even for this time if we're being honest) and actually understood the politics. Despite being held back on direct representation (Garak and Bashir), they were still able to get their message across through the plot structure and story beats.

Nutrek goes all-in on representation, but completely falls flat when they attempt to go any deeper because they don't understand the issues.

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[–] sirblastalot@ttrpg.network 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

Disco lost me when I got to the episode where everyone is going to die unless the main character cAn tAlK tO a bOy aT tHe dAnCe!

Lower Decks was fun though. And I've watched like, 1 episode of SNW but it was a good pilot. Haven't plumbed the depths of the rest of nutrek yet.

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[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 10 months ago*

Discard Disco like a cokehead fucktoy. Sure, they smash certain checkboxes, but holyfuck what a mess when the lights come on.

Pick up the phone when SNW calls and know that it's a very good friend of Lower Decks.

None of them seem capable of anything like an LTR, but at least the latter two won't give you headcrabs and lie to your face about it.

Actually, Mariner totally would, but I'm here for it. 🤣

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