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[–] -2 points 10 months ago (19 children)

Tankie here. Marxists-Leninist don't condone stochastic violent acts during capitalism against Capitalists, the word we use to refer to such tactics is "adventurism", and it's criticized heavily.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    He's telling the truth for once. MLs don't believe that workers should have agency over their lives or the revolution. They only condone violence against capitalists if leadership ordered them to. They're very much a top down belief system hence the "Tankie" part: ie enforcing political orthodoxy with the threat of violence against the workers.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago

    They only condone violence against capitalists if leadership ordered them to

    No. We just believe that adventurism isn't a good tactic in bourgeois dictatorship, and we distinguish it from repression of capitalists by the dictatorship of the proletariat, i.e. by the state democratically representing the workers in power.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago* (16 children)

    Then you don't support Russia, China, or North Korea and you're not a tankie, or you do support those entities and you're lying about their activities, in either scenario that's bullshit.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    You're not wrong that they support those countries but you haven't explained how that's pertinent to the topic at hand.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (10 children)

    Because China, Russia, and North Korea run psyops that either directly or indirectly harm western nations, such as by endorsing, and in some cases funding and arming, people who oppose or disadvantage the governments and peoples in those nations in any way and by doing anything in their power to decrease credibility and trust of those nation's governments.

    Examples: China used its TikTok military op not only to collect and categorize americans (and other nations) but to directly endorse Donald Trump for president, followed by the largest shift rightward in young voters ever recorded. China wants Anarchy in the west, China wants an opportunity to grow their own borders unchecked and become the dominant global superpower.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    China wants Anarchy in the west

    Anarchy isn't a synonym for Chaos

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    It is a synonym for a weakened governing body, though.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Unless China is pushing for community gardens, and mutual aid drives in the West, lets try a different word.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago* (6 children)

    They pushed for Donald Fucking Trump, mate. You should try some different words.

    China wants the USA to have a revolution, and the bloodier the better, and in the end they want a loyalist installed as the new leader(s).

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    And Donald Trump is the extreme opposite of an Anarchist.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    Oh, ok, so it's all communal gardens, then? Huh? Is that right, is that all China is pushing for? By getting Trump reelected China harmed the credibility of the USA federal government and pushed it towards lawlessness, it's called accelerationism and it's the preferred political ideology of selfish assholes with zero empathy which includes a very large number of anarchists.

    Trump also happens to be the most deregulatory president potentially of all time, by attempting to overrule the constitution itself and him and his followers are constantly cooing over abolishing income taxes entirely.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Is that right, is that all China is pushing for?

    Are you playing dumb? Being snarky? China is pushing for chaos in the west.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I think I understand, you're not implying that what they want is related to communal gardens, you're simply in denial of how the anarchist movement can be misused by them.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I'm saying that alot of people use the word "anarchy" to imply something akin to a riot; total chaos rather then what it is: a political movement opposed to hierarchy. The powers that be, approving of hierarchy and being opposed to anarchy encourage this incorrect use of language.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    What do Russia, China or the DPRK have to do with stochastic acts of violence against capitalists?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    If you're a Tankie

    You support Russia, China, and The Dictatorship of North Korea.

    That's like the definition of the word.

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