▲ 403 ▼ New York City Housing Authority to Replace Gas Stoves With Battery-Backed Induction Stoves in 100 Apartments Under Energy-Efficiency Pilot Program (citylimits.org) submitted 10 months ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/climate@slrpnk.net 165 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works -6 points 10 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Tinidril@midwest.social 4 points 10 months ago (5 children) I wouldn't assume the pumps moving that gas would keep working for an extended outage. If an outage lasts that long, it's usually over a big area. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] lemming741@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (4 children) In the last 15 years, my electricity has been out for 10+ DAYS three different times. Gas doesn't stop. In fact, 2 out of 3 homes in the neighborhood have Kohler style natural gas whole house generators. There's plenty of reasons to hate gas, but that ain't one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago They should've run the electricity wires next to the gas wires, i.e. buried. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prex@aussie.zone 1 point 10 months ago The reason you were down voted was in the first paragraph of the article - including breakdowns that can last for months at a time permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemming741@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Surely someone's got an example of natural gas service failing during an electric outage? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago Not really. The problem isn't that gas is somehow unreliable, it's actually that gas doesn't scale at all. It's a massive expensive infrastructure change and it's not flexible - you need gas. Electrical stoves can be powered by solar, wind, propane, etc; gas only works on gas. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago Congratulations! Now run the piping for gas to every apartment in a major city. Do it for the same budget as battery induction cooktops. Then we'll talk. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 4 points 10 months ago (5 children) I wouldn't assume the pumps moving that gas would keep working for an extended outage. If an outage lasts that long, it's usually over a big area. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] lemming741@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (4 children) In the last 15 years, my electricity has been out for 10+ DAYS three different times. Gas doesn't stop. In fact, 2 out of 3 homes in the neighborhood have Kohler style natural gas whole house generators. There's plenty of reasons to hate gas, but that ain't one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago They should've run the electricity wires next to the gas wires, i.e. buried. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prex@aussie.zone 1 point 10 months ago The reason you were down voted was in the first paragraph of the article - including breakdowns that can last for months at a time permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemming741@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Surely someone's got an example of natural gas service failing during an electric outage? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago Not really. The problem isn't that gas is somehow unreliable, it's actually that gas doesn't scale at all. It's a massive expensive infrastructure change and it's not flexible - you need gas. Electrical stoves can be powered by solar, wind, propane, etc; gas only works on gas. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemming741@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (4 children) In the last 15 years, my electricity has been out for 10+ DAYS three different times. Gas doesn't stop. In fact, 2 out of 3 homes in the neighborhood have Kohler style natural gas whole house generators. There's plenty of reasons to hate gas, but that ain't one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago They should've run the electricity wires next to the gas wires, i.e. buried. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prex@aussie.zone 1 point 10 months ago The reason you were down voted was in the first paragraph of the article - including breakdowns that can last for months at a time permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemming741@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Surely someone's got an example of natural gas service failing during an electric outage? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago Not really. The problem isn't that gas is somehow unreliable, it's actually that gas doesn't scale at all. It's a massive expensive infrastructure change and it's not flexible - you need gas. Electrical stoves can be powered by solar, wind, propane, etc; gas only works on gas. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago They should've run the electricity wires next to the gas wires, i.e. buried. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prex@aussie.zone 1 point 10 months ago The reason you were down voted was in the first paragraph of the article - including breakdowns that can last for months at a time permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Surely someone's got an example of natural gas service failing during an electric outage? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago Not really. The problem isn't that gas is somehow unreliable, it's actually that gas doesn't scale at all. It's a massive expensive infrastructure change and it's not flexible - you need gas. Electrical stoves can be powered by solar, wind, propane, etc; gas only works on gas. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago Not really. The problem isn't that gas is somehow unreliable, it's actually that gas doesn't scale at all. It's a massive expensive infrastructure change and it's not flexible - you need gas. Electrical stoves can be powered by solar, wind, propane, etc; gas only works on gas. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago Congratulations! Now run the piping for gas to every apartment in a major city. Do it for the same budget as battery induction cooktops. Then we'll talk. permalink fedilink source parent