▲ 425 ▼ Verizon refused to unlock man’s iPhone, so he sued the carrier and won (arstechnica.com) submitted 10 months ago by fne8w2ah@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 43 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (4 children) Sounds pretty based to do that to a carrier ngl permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children) I'm sorry the carriers you deal with are so shit but until mobile data transfer becomes a government utility (and let me tell you, there's a reason telecoms are scrambling to diversify) they do have to make a profit. In most markets the margins are razor thin and new radio technologies (4G, 5G, 6G) are costing more and returning less. So when poorly regulated markets let them merge into monopolies, or they cut costs by reducing human customer services, "based, I stole a phone from a shitty company" should hopefully be also followed up by you supporting legislation to make mobile data a government utility. For reference I work in an EU telecom and our industry is heavily regulated. If software companies or supermarkets were hammered for what they do with the data we "just" transfer, they'd be a lot cleaner too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] tja@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) But, like, Deutsche Telekom makes a lot of profit ( >10 billion € in 2024). So the margins can't be that thin? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 2 points 10 months ago DT is far more than a network carrier, it's one of the largest IT services companies in the world. On top of that their largest profits in the mobile sector are from the, eh, less regulated T-Mobile. Their operating margin is around 12%, way down on last year. https://companiesmarketcap.com/deutsche-telekom/operating-margin/ A more straightforward telecom example might be Vodafone in the UK who are at -4% this year: providing services cost them money https://companiesmarketcap.com/gbp/vodafone/operating-margin/ Telefonica in Spain are at 1.7% https://companiesmarketcap.com/telefonica/operating-margin/ Orange in France are at 10% https://companiesmarketcap.com/orange/operating-margin/ For comparison outside of the telecoms sector, Google is at 40% https://companiesmarketcap.com/alphabet-google/operating-margin/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 months ago You're right no one ever thinks of the shareholders smh permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children) I'm sorry the carriers you deal with are so shit but until mobile data transfer becomes a government utility (and let me tell you, there's a reason telecoms are scrambling to diversify) they do have to make a profit. In most markets the margins are razor thin and new radio technologies (4G, 5G, 6G) are costing more and returning less. So when poorly regulated markets let them merge into monopolies, or they cut costs by reducing human customer services, "based, I stole a phone from a shitty company" should hopefully be also followed up by you supporting legislation to make mobile data a government utility. For reference I work in an EU telecom and our industry is heavily regulated. If software companies or supermarkets were hammered for what they do with the data we "just" transfer, they'd be a lot cleaner too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] tja@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) But, like, Deutsche Telekom makes a lot of profit ( >10 billion € in 2024). So the margins can't be that thin? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 2 points 10 months ago DT is far more than a network carrier, it's one of the largest IT services companies in the world. On top of that their largest profits in the mobile sector are from the, eh, less regulated T-Mobile. Their operating margin is around 12%, way down on last year. https://companiesmarketcap.com/deutsche-telekom/operating-margin/ A more straightforward telecom example might be Vodafone in the UK who are at -4% this year: providing services cost them money https://companiesmarketcap.com/gbp/vodafone/operating-margin/ Telefonica in Spain are at 1.7% https://companiesmarketcap.com/telefonica/operating-margin/ Orange in France are at 10% https://companiesmarketcap.com/orange/operating-margin/ For comparison outside of the telecoms sector, Google is at 40% https://companiesmarketcap.com/alphabet-google/operating-margin/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 months ago You're right no one ever thinks of the shareholders smh permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) But, like, Deutsche Telekom makes a lot of profit ( >10 billion € in 2024). So the margins can't be that thin? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 2 points 10 months ago DT is far more than a network carrier, it's one of the largest IT services companies in the world. On top of that their largest profits in the mobile sector are from the, eh, less regulated T-Mobile. Their operating margin is around 12%, way down on last year. https://companiesmarketcap.com/deutsche-telekom/operating-margin/ A more straightforward telecom example might be Vodafone in the UK who are at -4% this year: providing services cost them money https://companiesmarketcap.com/gbp/vodafone/operating-margin/ Telefonica in Spain are at 1.7% https://companiesmarketcap.com/telefonica/operating-margin/ Orange in France are at 10% https://companiesmarketcap.com/orange/operating-margin/ For comparison outside of the telecoms sector, Google is at 40% https://companiesmarketcap.com/alphabet-google/operating-margin/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 2 points 10 months ago DT is far more than a network carrier, it's one of the largest IT services companies in the world. On top of that their largest profits in the mobile sector are from the, eh, less regulated T-Mobile. Their operating margin is around 12%, way down on last year. https://companiesmarketcap.com/deutsche-telekom/operating-margin/ A more straightforward telecom example might be Vodafone in the UK who are at -4% this year: providing services cost them money https://companiesmarketcap.com/gbp/vodafone/operating-margin/ Telefonica in Spain are at 1.7% https://companiesmarketcap.com/telefonica/operating-margin/ Orange in France are at 10% https://companiesmarketcap.com/orange/operating-margin/ For comparison outside of the telecoms sector, Google is at 40% https://companiesmarketcap.com/alphabet-google/operating-margin/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 months ago You're right no one ever thinks of the shareholders smh permalink fedilink source parent