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What Have I Learned From Daily Driving Arch Linux For Three Years? (thelibre.news)
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[–] 36 points 10 months ago (25 children)

Buys an NVIDIA GPU, complains it doesn't work with Wayland. Classic.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    I've never had issues with my nvidia gpu on wayland.

    I've never had to tweak anything to get it to work, it just works, even on a fresh arch install. I don't get it.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I had issues until about 18 month ago. I went from Wayland completely unusable with my 2080ti to it just works with plasma 6 I think.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Plasma 6 is much improved over 5 in terms of Wayland.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    It literally went from .1 fps to workable across multiple monitors over night. I've had one issue since where an update broke multi monitor support where if I changed monitor input without first removing the monitor in display it hard locked my computer. After a couple weeks that was fixed. Now periodically I have to restart Steam sometimes after an Nvidia update sometimes a full system restart, but not always and that's still less restarts than the equivalent on Windows.

    I've got a few friends that are considering a full jump, but a couple still play LoL or other anti cheat and aren't willing to jump ship yet. The fight is real and I'm still pushing though. I've been all one for 2+ years now and other than the pre plasma 6 days on kde, I've had one game that I had to tweak some settings for, Ghost of Tsushima didn't have multiplayer support, but the rest have been perfect out of box. For 90%+ of people, gaming and Linux will just work, regardless of GPU.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I can't even get past my login screen without my monitors losing signal. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. It's a beast I have to tackle again before they drop x11

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    What distro? Fewer problems on Arch is to be expected as it has more up to date software and drivers. On something that is improving quickly, like Wayland, that can make a lot of difference.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Thanks for responding. I use Arch and tried both open and propietary driver for nvidia. I'm still learning the ins and outs of using Linux so even when I search for solutions, a lot of it just goes above my head, haha. I'm sure I'll figure it out (or the problem would fix itself) eventually.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    I’ve been all Wayland for years on Intel and AMD, never had a single problem. I’ve also been choosing those GPUs due to their high quality open source drivers, and I don’t regret it.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 10 months ago

    I also had some problems with my nvidia gpu around a year ago when I switched over to linux.

    I'm not sure whether this was wayland specific, but when the GPU's clock speed would jump up after some time of inactivity it would cause this sort of stutter / lag for that 1 second of transition. Was really annoying, I had to change the minimum clock speed, it did help. I eventually switched to a AMD gpu and everything worked perfectly without me needing to do anything.

    And in general I had a couple of more problems with some electron apps back then (Obsidian), that did not work well when forced to run wayland. Though this was probably not nvidia specific. Eventually I remember finding some sort of fix for it by setting some obscure environment variable that I found on hyprlands discord that was recently made available.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (5 children)

    Oh, is that still a problem? I thought my GTX 1070TI was having problems in games because Debian ships quite old drivers. But if that happens on Arch, I guess I'm out of luck with that card for Linux 🥲

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I dont know how old your card is, but NVIDIA only recently decided not to be complete gobshite on Linux and newer cards should be safer (from what I've read). AMD has been stable on linux for the last decade or so while NVIDIA (aka NOVIDIO) was a terrible actor on Linux and the community had to reverse engineer a lot of their stuff.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    I think 1070 is a problem with recent drivers as NVIDIA has dropped support in the proprietary drivers and noveau still does not support them well.

    Some have said the 550 series drivers work best for these cards: https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/gtx-1070-ubuntu-24-only-550-works/332234

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    right. I got an AMD and the driver is utter shit. I had to disable features using kernel cmdline bitmask flags, so that it doesn't crash every 2 hours. wayland + amd classic.

    never had compositor or display server issues with nvidia on linux.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    What GPU model is it? And what distro are you using?

    Did you install separate AMD drivers? You’re generally not supposed to do that; it’s just plug-and-play in the kernel and MESA (assuming the version is new enough), and you usually don’t need to download separate drivers.

    Also, what kernel flags did you have to use?

    It’s just that I’m a bit skeptical any of this is actually the fault of the AMD Linux kernel driver, and I would guess there’s some underlying software or hardware issue like a faulty ACPI implementation on the motherboard. I’m not saying AMD can do no wrong, but in this case, making blanket statements about the quality of AMD GPU drivers may be premature.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (3 children)

    rx 6650 xt, stock drivers that come with arch, amdgpu. issue is both on lts and latest. seems to be a ring buffer error. there's an open ticket about it.

    I don't remeber the flag, but it's to disable some power saving feature.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    That sounds more like something weird about the card itself than with the driver; "power saving feature" makes me think a faulty hardware ACPI implementation by the card vendor is to blame. I've had a similar thing happen with my Wi-Fi modem where it would completely crash and only a reboot would fix it; I too have to do special kernel options to get it working.

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