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'The Expanse' at 10: The Outer Space Drama That Should Have Been as Big as ‘Game of Thrones’ (www.space.com)
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[–] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

The books are beloved by their fans. So the show gets a lot of passes. The show was a mess.

I don’t have the issues with the cast that most do. Steven Strait is reviled as Holden.

The Expanse first season was clunky and took a while to get going.

Season two and three were great.

SyFy cancels the show.

Amazon resurrects it.

Season four was a total dud. Amos was completely sidelined and Holden spent the whole season wandering around a gravel pit talking to a dead guy (miller). It was the Miller/Julie Mao thing all over again. Then there were the dangerous slug things.

Season five just completely sucked ass. I swear to god there was at least two scenes an expose with Naomi, her baby daddy and baby saying the same thing over and over again. Add to this was the comically terrible storyline of Amos returning to earth.

Season six was too little too late and was really bad.

The Expanse never had a chance to be GOT.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Season four was a total dud. Amos was completely sidelined and Holden spent the whole season wandering around a gravel pit talking to a dead guy (miller).

    Following the books, although S04 did trim some characters from the New-Terra/Ilus arc.

    Add to this was the comically terrible storyline of Amos returning to earth.

    Why was that terrible? I don't follow there.

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  • [–] -3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    i know S 4 followed the books, but what difference does it make. It was still terrible.

    Why was Amos return to Earth terrible?

    Nothing happened. Amos’ life on earth was hinted at and talked about throughout the how and again it was a big nothing.

    He told a mafia boss to fuck off then for reasons decided to go down an elevator shaft to hook up with a chick who tried to kill them. Then there is an apocalypse and Amos climbed up an elevator shaft and finds a resort to escape earf…

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    i know S 4 followed the books, but what difference does it make. It was still terrible.

    I'm saying a lot of detail was gone from that arc. An entire POV character was missing. In the books, we had Havelock return who was on the security detail team but operating from orbit. Skipped the entire Naomi being captured by Murtry's security forces in orbit, the breakout and rescue from the ship. I don't really think Holden talking to Miller was like Miller and Julie on account that the context was very different.

    Nothing happened. Amos’ life on earth was hinted at and talked about throughout the how and again it was a big nothing.

    I mean he picked up Clarissa and bought her into the crew after escaping earth. What would you have expected references to his backstory to involve?

    He told a mafia boss to fuck off then for reasons decided to go down an elevator shaft to hook up with a chick who tried to kill them. Then there is an apocalypse and Amos climbed up an elevator shaft and finds a resort to escape earf…

    He didn't go there to "hook up with her".

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I'm saying a lot of detail was gone from that arc. An entire POV character was missing. In the books, we had Havelock return who was on the security detail team but operating from orbit. Skipped the entire Naomi being captured by Murtry's security forces in orbit, the breakout and rescue from the ship. I

    So you are pointing out that season four of the TV show was missing the vast majority of the content that made the story good in the book the season is based on…

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 11 months ago

    Idk about "vast majority" but a lot of detail was missing. Book 4 was set entirely on Ilus. The Bobbie plotline was a sort of adaptation/edit from Season 5 (or what might've been going on in the background) and Avasarala's plot was entirely invented for the show. Done to not make those actresses sit out an entire season.

    Drummer also wasn't even in the books at this point beyond being a side-character (very different to her book adaptation) and Ashford was a completely different character, and jailed at this point.

    Ilus was a lot more detailed plot. I don't dislike the shows interpretation of it, but they had to trim a lot.

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