Second-highest figure in Tibetan Buddhism makes apparent reference to succession of exiled spiritual leader Dalai Lama

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[–] 47 points 11 months ago (26 children)

Hes only saying that because he was kidnapped and brainwashed

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  • [+] -43 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (21 children)
  • [–] 42 points 11 months ago* (4 children)

    Obviously, anyone who doesn't like their people being genocided by the CCP must be a CIA operative.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    The CIA was highly active in Tibet from the 1950s through the 70s. The current Dalai Lama absolutely worked with the CIA at one point. Whether that relationship is ongoing is unclear, but he is closer to the US and her allies than he is to China.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (14 children)

    Funny how Lemmy.ml doesn't post anything which could reasonably be recognised as leftism, and instead just posts "western countries bad" garbage over and over and over again.

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (13 children)

    Just for you, positives of leftist governance without bringing up the west :)

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (12 children)

    If the PRC was leftist they probably wouldn't lock up Uyghurs in camps, or threaten to invade Taiwan with military force.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    Ah, the no true leftist argument, I have never seen this before. Leftist doesnt mean perfect, yeah they have issues. They also happen to be the left leaning powerhouse, and that's one step closer to international communism that is powerful enough to properly address these issues, not capitalists that are playing the oppressed classes.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    I wouldn't call an imperialist nation "left leaning". To me it's like when the Nazis called themselves socialists. But anyway I guess we will have different perspectives on this.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (9 children)

    Can you give examples of their imperialism? I dont remember them invading anywhere in my memory, but maybe I am forgetting?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    Wanting to invade Taiwan, claiming all of the Spratly and Paracel islands. And as I said there is other behaviour which I don't think is "left leaning", such as locking up Uyghurs in camps.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    How does not invading on of your closest neighbors make you an empire? How does claiming the islands very close to you while not invading them make you an empire? If you can make this make sense I'm listening. Also, Isreal isnt an empire just because it's genociding people, so even if they were genociding, that wouldnt make one an empire. Show me the empirical evidence (lol)

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (6 children)

    Yeah I dunno, how does planning an invasion to expand your land make you imperial. I'm stumped. As for locking up Uyghurs, I didn't say that's imperialist behaviour, I said it's behaviour that I don't think is "left leaning". I guess you could call it tyrannical behaviour.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (5 children)

    How long have they been planning it? Can you send a relevant source I could see? Maybe they are, I just haven't seen your source yet

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (4 children)

    I don't know for how long they may have planned it. But I think it's likely that they would have created some sort of plans for an invasion of Taiwan, based on their statements where they say they don't rule out force to take over Taiwan. From this article:

    Peng Qing'en, a spokesperson for China's Taiwan Affairs Office, told a regular news conference in Beijing that peaceful "reunification" under the "one country, two systems" model is the fundamental approach to "resolving the Taiwan issue".

    "We are willing to create ample space for peaceful reunification and will spare no effort to pursue this prospect with the utmost sincerity," he said.

    "However, we absolutely will not renounce the use of force and reserve the option to take all necessary measures."

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    Not renouncing the use of force is entirely different than exercising it, which they haven't. This would be like calling the US imperialist because it wouldn't accept the south from succeeding pre-civil war. How

    China's top official in charge of Taiwan policy, the ruling Communist Party's fourth-ranked leader Wang Huning, did not mention force in a key policy speech on Saturday, which instead focused on how both sides would benefit from "reunification".

    So they aren't even threatening it, just not ruling it out. Again, not very imperialistic.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I didn't say they had exercised force, I said they're likely planning the use of force to take over Taiwan, whether the people of Taiwan want that or not. I would regard that as imperialistic. I think it would be more humane to respect the wishes of Taiwan - if they want to join the PRC then okay, but if they don't then perhaps that should be respected.

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  • [+] -9 points 11 months ago

    You're not allowed to talk about this. This is Far-Left Tankie Bullshit Lies and also it doesn't matter and also nothing the Dali Lama or his brother said in hindsight matters.

    In 1999, the Dalai Lama suggested that the CIA Tibetan program had been harmful to Tibet because it primarily served American interests, claiming “once the American policy toward China changed, they stopped their help … The Americans had a different agenda from the Tibetans.”

    Gyalo Thondup, the Dalai Lama’s elder brother, also expressed frustration with the role of the CIA in Tibetan affairs. In a 2009 interview, he stated “I never asked for CIA military assistance. I asked for political help. I wanted to publicize the Tibet situation, to make a little noise. The Americans promised to help make Tibet an independent country. All those promises were broken.” He continues, claiming that America “didn’t want to help Tibet. It just wanted to make trouble for China. It had no far-sighted policy for Tibet. I wasn’t trained for this (clandestine operations). We didn’t know about power politics.”

    The important thing to remember is that Tibet is a free country being villainously occupied and oppressed by the Evil Chinese Invaders. Everyone in Tibet hates everyone in China. They yearn for freedom. And if we can just put enough heavy weapons into the hands of Tibetian dissidents the country will explode into a liberal democracy of freedom and liberty and Buddhism which is the one good religion that everyone on Lemmy loves.

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  • [+] -30 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Look no matter how you feel about the China and i dislike their government as well the “kidnapped” person was according to them relocated and allowed to live a regular life and there is something to be said to not allow a six year old to be forced to a religious figure forced to abide by among other things vows of celibacy.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago*

    Yes, the government that was accused of abducting a family is in the right, because that same government says they are treating that family well, and no, no one is allowed to independently verify that, but obviously you have every reason to take our word for it

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