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Cannabis Users Are Scromiting Uncontrollably, and It's as Gross as It Sounds (www.vice.com)
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CHS is an unpleasant side effect of a person’s plan to chill out with their favorite cannabis product of choice. After years of heavy cannabis use, a small but growing number of people will suddenly find themselves experiencing waves of nausea, abdominal pain, and vomiting so violently that it’s accompanied by a terrifying scream, hence the nickname “Scromiting” — a screaming vomit.

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[–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

with overdose symptoms, they would have a blood test for alcohol poisoning, ruling it out

Yes, but for them to even think it'd be alcohol poisoning would require vastly higher alcohol amounts and it's not actually what I'm talking about.

I'm talking about being on a very normal level of inebriation, one that doctors would definitely dismiss, especially after like 3-4 hours of not having had a drink and throwing up so much.

Pot doesn't make me nauseous at all as long as I don't smoke it after drinking. I can drink and smoke, but I can't go a long time without smoking (resetting my tolerance to zero), the have several drinks and then a really heavy smoke, I'd become nauseous for sure.

Because alcohol doesn't just feel like it's "boosting" the high. Having alcohol in your system actually changes how your liver processes cannabinoids. Ever so slightly. But like how if you're doing cocaine, if you have even a beer or two, the nature of the high changes, because then you're getting like cocaethylene from your liver because there's alcohol in your system as well. So something similar definitely happens with cannabinoids. I read a study saying how events small amounts of alcohol will make it so your blood will actually have higher levels of THC and it's metabolites than without any.

But I still can't explain why the science seems to say it happens to chronic users. I'd really need to hear them defining chronic, so it's not like high school kids who stared smoking weed last year and then this year starter going to partied with alcohol and end up vomiting (but again not having high alc levels so it's not diagnosed as alc poisoning) and then that makes the stats go up? Idk.

But still, seems like utter bullshit the way it's presented. As if it can just happen to a person that randomly they'll start "scromiting" from weed when they've been smoking for 10-20 years and haven't changed lifestyle or habits.

But yeah, nausea does happen more with strains that have utterly high THC without any CBD. I grew this one THC/CBD strain since before it was cool, and it was about 50/50 thc cbd. Awesome for drinking, didn't give nausea at all and I could even give my friends a puff or two without them getting too stoned or having nausea

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 11 months ago*

    These reports are based on patients presenting to the ER with cyclical vomiting. After charts are taken and tox reports are done, they've found all of them are habitual to chronic cannabinoid users. It usually happens in the morning and it's unrelated to other factors.

    When presenting to the emergency room with possible signs of intoxication, poisoning, or overdose (the scromiting,) it's standard to do a toxicology report, which is how they can rule out alcohol.

    Vice has a vibe, it's informal, the tone isn't meant to be taken seriously, but I like it because it's different, and their health and science reporting is always well sourced. If you check out the source in the article it links to a paper.

    Just because there's been so much bullshit around weed doesn't mean it's perfect. I did a bit of dealing back in the day, tried different weed every which way, and it's a net negative for me.

    But all we know is that it's somehow linked to this persistent vomiting syndrome, it could be certain strains, genetic, or some entirely different reason. It's as important to question the reports as it is to use them to figure out what's going on.

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