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[–] 77 points 11 months ago (25 children)

Telegram was always super shady. Why do people use it instead of f.e. Signal?

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago*

    It's a lot easier to get a telegram account. I use telegram for its API and automated notifications, not impossible to do that with signal, but difficult to the point of serious impracticality. Telegram groups also don't really have anything that compares with Signal.

    For person to person communication, its signal every time though.

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  • [–] 23 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Not an excuse but Telegram is pretty, and full of colors and animations. Signal is ugly (which is a feature for a small number of users).

    But yes it's shady since their custom encryption is weak and they hold the keys.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    nah both are ugly, but out of the messengers I have tried only telegram and whatsapp have the problem of randos adding me to crypto scam chat groups without any option to decline before it starts pinging me with notifications.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    it got big in people's minds earlier. my experience over the last 5 years has been that the only people still using telegram are fascists and cishet eastern europeans. queer folks in eastern europe mostly moved to signal (again. this is my experience. it's purely anecdotal)

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    I've had it installed for a while. Didn't use it much, but it was fun to see the pop ups from people out of address book joining telegram.

    There were some usual suspects of kind of 'sceptical' folk, but also some surprises like my aunt.

    The novelty wore off quickly though

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Because there is nobody who has signal, and everyone is using telegram. I could switch to signal, but there is nobody to chat with. Telegram users and group chat owners wouldnt switch to signal, because they dont care, and nobody else in chat does so. So unless telegram will be legally banned by government, nobody is going to do anything about using it.

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  • [+] -6 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    Wake me up when Signal can actually share the location, esp. live location, and not just a static maps screenshot with a Google Maps URL.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    That... seems like a bad thing. Why do you want that as a feature?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    In addition to finding friends, it's nice to see your partner making progress home if they're driving/walking in poor weather.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    There's a million apps out there which you can install to let you see your partner's location if you really need realtime telemetry to help salve your anxiety - why can't you use one of those, instead of introducing a huge privacy flaw into a totally unrelated messaging service?

    Seriously this is about a messaging app being aligned to the FSB, and you're arguing that letting it know your partner's location while they're particularly vulnerable is somehow a desirable feature??

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    No, I'm not talking about Telegram, just location sharing as a general feature. And if you already have a chat app you share your secrets on, why wouldn't you also trust it with your location. Sounds better than introducing yet another company's app to sniff on you.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    When you have actual friends and you want tomeet up, just share the live location for 15 minutes, walk towards each other and you can get live updates to see where both are.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    That requires paying Google maps for their services. I don't know how their running costs and budget work.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Signal have tons of money from selling proprietary licenses of the Signal code base to Meta (used by WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger), Google, and Microsoft.

    All these partnerships were announced on Signal's own blog, in case you don't believe it.

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