For Context: I'm Chinese American, and I do not feel "ashamed" for my heritage, neither do I feel "ashamed" for being a US Citizen.

The CCP is not my fault. I do not feel any shame of saying I'm from China.

Similarly, the trump admin is not my fault, I voted Harris. I do not feel any shame for being American.

So what is the thought process of people feeling shame/guilt?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 0 points 11 months ago (13 children)

American liberals would sooner say that the nation is impure than that nationalism is pathological. Many of them literally identify with the state as part of or representative of themselves. Guilt and shame are American rationalisation staples, "I feel bad, but I'm not going to stop."

  • source
  • hideshow 13 child comments
  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    So for anyone keeping score at home:

    This is exactly what OP is talking about. Instead of answering the question with anything even remotely resembling a nuanced take- we have instead, decided to make an uneducated blanket assessment of an entire group of people based on zero evidence and a lack of qualifications to make such an accusation.

    For example, I am an American liberal. And everthing they said doesn’t even come close to describing my stance on the issues of nationalism or how I feel about my take on personal political representation.

    But one should never let this get in the way of a good ol’ blanket statement! Because nothing says “no need to take anything I say seriously” any louder than this.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Get this, they responded to me saying that checked my profile- and apparently saw that I somehow equate leftists with liberalism and because of this, I don’t know shit, so they blocked me.

    I don’t think I’ve ever put the two in the same bucket.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    Jesus how dramatic. Please explain liberalism for me so that I know what I've gotten wrong here.

    edit: checked their profile, they think liberalism is "leftist." Politically illiterate liberal gets mad at the read. Blocked.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    LMAO.

    They checked my profile, found that I’ve never once said liberalism is leftist, and created a reason to back out of the argument.

    You can’t make this shit up.

    And they blocked me? Well, some gifts just wrap themselves, don’t they?

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    What a helpful and fair comment that is absolutely not dripping with smug self righteousness. So refreshing!

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (5 children)

    What's "righteous" about this?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (4 children)

    You pretend to be any better than the millions of random strangers you don't know or understand but criticize anyway.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago* (3 children)

    Where do I say that? I understand American liberalism intimately, btw. People can actually know things and also think you're wrong.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Jesus, I see that word so misused on here but someone using it when I ask where I said something two comments above is pretty hilarious.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment