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[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 months ago (8 children)

apperently meta gets to pick it, and it is not a public api.

No they dont, and it's a public modified Matrix-protocol. Why would you lie about that?

The problem is that WhatsApp can demand third parties to meet very high standards, making it impossible for independent actors to gain access to this.

You need a pretty well run machinery to live up to the standard, but if they do, WhatApps can legally not deny access.

If they do, it's in violation of the DMA, which gives you a 10% of all global income in fees.

These has been used against Meta and Google before, and there's no reason to believe they wont do it again. They actually live up to it.

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[–] bartleby1@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

WhatsApp was originally built on, and still is, a forked version of XMPP. It is nothing like the matrix protocol.

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[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

It's not, but they made a WhatsApp API for the DMA. There's a Matrix bridge to WhatsApp.

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[–] bartleby1@lemmy.ml 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

I understand the DMA interop thing quite well, and it is a private API. The matrix bridge does not use official interop as the Matrix foundation has given up on plans to do interop, as it requires geolocating (and then georestricting) their users.

The current, longstanding, matrix bridge requires you to have the WhatsApp app installed on your phone, with a working account.

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[–] pedroapero@lemmy.ml 1 point 11 months ago*

From my understanding, this bridge does use some the official WhatsApp web client's API. You only need to connect the official app once in a while (a few seconds every two weeks) and can do so on a separate device.

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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

Share the documentation then if it's public.

https://developers.facebook.com/messaging-interoperability

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[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

Again, I dont think you can access it unless you follow the rules.

I guess it's not true public, but you can if you meet the requirements.

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[+] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

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[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 1 point 11 months ago

Signal wont do it because they cant use their own protocol. You still have to use WhatsApps, which makes it flawed.

I also hope for good clients, but maybe the rules will change further before there's any real use case for it. Maybe it's too expensive compared to making your own?

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[–] bartleby1@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

You’re correct, it is not a public API. In fact, just to see the specs, you need to be either an organization (or an indie developer) registered in the EU and have to sign a massive NDA just to get the documentation!