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Man who gets winded climbing stairs describes plan to repel home invasion (www.thebeaverton.com)
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[–] 18 points 11 months ago (30 children)

Yeah it equalizes your chances of killing your family by mistake to roughly the same as a home invader killing them.

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  • [+] -9 points 11 months ago (29 children)

    It's more dangerous to have a swimming pool.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (22 children)

    This is really only close to true statistically if you're under 4, thank fuck America isn't shooting many toddlers yet (but the number isn't zero). There are about 1200 deaths a year in domestic pools in the US and 46000 gun deaths.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (19 children)

    A) you're way off...3500-4000 drown in the USA a year. We'll call that accidents.

    B) accidental gun deaths per year are around 450-500...

    You wanna do statics, do them right and stop making shit up. Your anti-gun propaganda you drink has always had to make shit up to get people to believe their crap. No having a firearm in your home is not magically more deadly than owning a pool. Period.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    ...3500-4000 drown in the USA a year. We'll call that accidents.

    B) accidental gun deaths per year are around 450-500...

    Yeesh. Another gun-clutcher.

    Drowning deaths in America includes every kind of drowning death, and so lake and boating and surfing and oil rig and commercial fishing accidents pump that number up.

    You wanna do statics, do them right and stop making shit up.

    Hypocrisy is fun. And the word is statistics.

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Yesh another anti gun nut who thinks that we should disarm ourselves while we have fascist in power...

    See my other comment as well to your other points.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (13 children)

    A) includes drownings in bathtubs an natural water (where majority of drownings happen) B) so people who died to domestic violence or suicide are safe are they?

    "You wanna do statics, do them right and stop making shit up."

    Source for majority of drowning deaths non-pool related: https://www.statista.com/chart/34873/rates-of-unintentional-drowning-deaths-and-drowning-locations/?srsltid=AfmBOoreeroH378wf2OA0D3nU9ZbuMfzFgmO1VcicvcFUwRF2G1scUA_

    Source for actual total gun deaths, because danger doesn't just mean accidents: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/03/05/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-us/

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (12 children)

    Suicide isn't an accident and neither is domestic violence. You don't accidentally off yourself and you can't accidentally have domestic violence. You also can't suicide via water either...well not without a ton of work.

    You're bullshit stat is about how having a gun magically makes you more likely to be a victim of gun violence, which is not correct.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    https://academic.oup.com/aje/article-abstract/160/10/929/140858

    Why do you keep talking about "magic" and "accidents". Just because you don't want deadly weapons to be a risk factor doesn't mean that they aren't. It's just a fact. And an obvious and intuitive one at that.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (10 children)

    Because the point is that drowning is mainly via an accident. You don't accidentally suicide yourself. And your link is really "no shit" stats. You can't kill yourself and be in the "suicide with a firearm" if you don't use a fucking firearm. These are "water is wet" stats that are pointless.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (9 children)

    And yet you keep claiming water isn't wet.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    Naa I'm claiming that you're suggesting that it's a monsoon when it's more like a mist.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    And for the record I'm not suggesting anything. I'm giving you facts and sources. Which you respond to with nothing more than a dismissal of avoidable death and violence as not important. It's pretty weird honestly.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I gave facts, you provided a survey.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Peer reviewed journals articles are not "a survey". That's the highest standard of proof we have. You're been repeatedly demonstrated false and just stick your head in the sand. I'm out as that this point seems like bad faith argument.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago

    Data from a US mortality follow-back survey were analyzed to determine whether having a firearm in the home increases the risk of a violent death in the home and whether risk varies by storage practice, type of gun, or number of guns in the home.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Tell that to the 46000 victims a year Alex Jones.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Of which 2/3rds are suicides...which would be preventable if we had single payer in this country, but instead of using the political capital on that, the anti-2a groups burn it on a topic that doesn't have nearly the support that they think it does.

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