▲ 897 ▼ Tesla's European car sales nosedive for fifth month as customers switch to Chinese EVs (www.cnbc.com) submitted 1 year ago by vegeta@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 193 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] pennomi@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] random_character_a@lemmy.world -10 points 1 year ago (9 children) My government just added a controversial extra tax on EVs because they tear up the roads and cause additional particles, because they are really heavy and most of them have a better than usual torque. You can really see how road quality went to shit after EVs became mainstream. Making batteries is also a really ugly business and far from environmental. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] orclev@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) That is not even remotely why they added a tax on EVs. The reason they added the extra tax is because they make a ton of money by taxing gas and as EVs are gaining popularity they're starting to see their tax revenues plummet. There is a nugget of truth in that some of those tax revenues are used to pay for maintaining the roads and that EVs do still put wear and tear on the roads, but it's not that they're destroying roads any more than any other car does. If you're seeing a drop in road quality it's because your government isn't paying to have the roads maintained like they have in the past, not because there are more EVs driving around. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago *Puts on Rammstein - Amerika permalink fedilink source parent [–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago I live in an area where half the vehicles on the road are pickup trucks and giant SUV'S. A KIA EV2 isn't doing any added harm to the roads here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (5 children) I can't find anything on such a tax? I feel like there has been an uptick in pro oil bots in the past week. Oil is a pretty ugly business too? What is wrong with you people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Piip piip boop boop. Evil nordic bot coming at you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) Bio gas and diesel are also renewable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) If you are a moron, ya, it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) With average EU energy mix total carbon footprint of a biogas car is still only 3/4 of an equivalent electric vehicle after 10 years of use. Additional weight of the vehicle and the costly battery production matters. With average US east coast energy mix the EVs carbon footprint would be double that of a biogas car after 10 years of use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) You are a mouthpiece, I'm going to assume everything you say is a lie or grossly misrepresented. Post your sources, bootlicker. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] random_character_a@lemmy.world -10 points 1 year ago (9 children) My government just added a controversial extra tax on EVs because they tear up the roads and cause additional particles, because they are really heavy and most of them have a better than usual torque. You can really see how road quality went to shit after EVs became mainstream. Making batteries is also a really ugly business and far from environmental. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] orclev@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) That is not even remotely why they added a tax on EVs. The reason they added the extra tax is because they make a ton of money by taxing gas and as EVs are gaining popularity they're starting to see their tax revenues plummet. There is a nugget of truth in that some of those tax revenues are used to pay for maintaining the roads and that EVs do still put wear and tear on the roads, but it's not that they're destroying roads any more than any other car does. If you're seeing a drop in road quality it's because your government isn't paying to have the roads maintained like they have in the past, not because there are more EVs driving around. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago *Puts on Rammstein - Amerika permalink fedilink source parent [–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago I live in an area where half the vehicles on the road are pickup trucks and giant SUV'S. A KIA EV2 isn't doing any added harm to the roads here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (5 children) I can't find anything on such a tax? I feel like there has been an uptick in pro oil bots in the past week. Oil is a pretty ugly business too? What is wrong with you people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Piip piip boop boop. Evil nordic bot coming at you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) Bio gas and diesel are also renewable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) If you are a moron, ya, it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) With average EU energy mix total carbon footprint of a biogas car is still only 3/4 of an equivalent electric vehicle after 10 years of use. Additional weight of the vehicle and the costly battery production matters. With average US east coast energy mix the EVs carbon footprint would be double that of a biogas car after 10 years of use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) You are a mouthpiece, I'm going to assume everything you say is a lie or grossly misrepresented. Post your sources, bootlicker. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orclev@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) That is not even remotely why they added a tax on EVs. The reason they added the extra tax is because they make a ton of money by taxing gas and as EVs are gaining popularity they're starting to see their tax revenues plummet. There is a nugget of truth in that some of those tax revenues are used to pay for maintaining the roads and that EVs do still put wear and tear on the roads, but it's not that they're destroying roads any more than any other car does. If you're seeing a drop in road quality it's because your government isn't paying to have the roads maintained like they have in the past, not because there are more EVs driving around. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago *Puts on Rammstein - Amerika permalink fedilink source parent
[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago *Puts on Rammstein - Amerika permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago I live in an area where half the vehicles on the road are pickup trucks and giant SUV'S. A KIA EV2 isn't doing any added harm to the roads here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (5 children) I can't find anything on such a tax? I feel like there has been an uptick in pro oil bots in the past week. Oil is a pretty ugly business too? What is wrong with you people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Piip piip boop boop. Evil nordic bot coming at you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) Bio gas and diesel are also renewable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) If you are a moron, ya, it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) With average EU energy mix total carbon footprint of a biogas car is still only 3/4 of an equivalent electric vehicle after 10 years of use. Additional weight of the vehicle and the costly battery production matters. With average US east coast energy mix the EVs carbon footprint would be double that of a biogas car after 10 years of use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) You are a mouthpiece, I'm going to assume everything you say is a lie or grossly misrepresented. Post your sources, bootlicker. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Piip piip boop boop. Evil nordic bot coming at you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) Bio gas and diesel are also renewable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) If you are a moron, ya, it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) With average EU energy mix total carbon footprint of a biogas car is still only 3/4 of an equivalent electric vehicle after 10 years of use. Additional weight of the vehicle and the costly battery production matters. With average US east coast energy mix the EVs carbon footprint would be double that of a biogas car after 10 years of use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) You are a mouthpiece, I'm going to assume everything you say is a lie or grossly misrepresented. Post your sources, bootlicker. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) If you are a moron, ya, it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) With average EU energy mix total carbon footprint of a biogas car is still only 3/4 of an equivalent electric vehicle after 10 years of use. Additional weight of the vehicle and the costly battery production matters. With average US east coast energy mix the EVs carbon footprint would be double that of a biogas car after 10 years of use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) You are a mouthpiece, I'm going to assume everything you say is a lie or grossly misrepresented. Post your sources, bootlicker. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) With average EU energy mix total carbon footprint of a biogas car is still only 3/4 of an equivalent electric vehicle after 10 years of use. Additional weight of the vehicle and the costly battery production matters. With average US east coast energy mix the EVs carbon footprint would be double that of a biogas car after 10 years of use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) You are a mouthpiece, I'm going to assume everything you say is a lie or grossly misrepresented. Post your sources, bootlicker. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) You are a mouthpiece, I'm going to assume everything you say is a lie or grossly misrepresented. Post your sources, bootlicker. permalink fedilink source parent