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It was best as a silly toy language in the 1990's... (reddthat.com)
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Squidward Tentacles meme format. Top panel shows Squidward looking happy while setting up a beach chair, with the text 'WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO AN OPEN SOURCE PROJECT I USE AND APPRECIATE'. Bottom panel shows Squidward looking sad and disappointed, folding up the chair and going back inside a building, with the text 'WRITTEN IN JS'.
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[–] 17 points 11 months ago (17 children)

agreed. typescript is excelent, especially if you make it strict and know a bit of complex types to make sure things stay put.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (16 children)

    Chiming in as a professional TS dev. It's really a joy to do web dev work in the post TS world.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    What do you think of JSDoc? As someone who knows neither I find the idea of no required transpilation very appealing, while still getting the TS ecosystem tools.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    JSDoc is much more cumbersome than using TypeScript. That's it. It clutters the code in a way that TypeScript somehow avoids. TS types are smoothly integrated in the code itself, IMO. Not as much the case with JSDoc.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Thanks! As a hardware guy it'll be a long time before I do anything with this information. Nice to hear the opinions of actual Devs.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I suspect most Lemmy users hating on JS haven’t done much professional JS work. Especially these days with TypeScript and all the modern conveniences.

    I’m curious, what kinda hardware do you work on?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    Ah alright 🙂 My pleasure! Yeah I wouldn't even consider JSDoc if I had the choice of TypeScript. I even did some years of Advent Of Code in TypeScript. It's performant enough and simple to employ some kind of quasi functional programming style with it. I think it's great.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    I think Rich Harris famously migrated Svelte from TypeScript to JSDoc, while still supporting TypeScript via JSDoc. I don’t use Svelte, so I have no idea how well this works in practice. However, Rick Harris seems smart to me, unlike other overly opinionated devs like DHH. I still wouldn’t use JSDoc over TS, but I guess if it works for your project, who cares. What matters is that we all remember the one true enemy, DHH

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    I would actually love to hear the rationale behind migrating from TypeScript to JSDoc. Mind boggling to me.

    Especially nowadays when there is promising work towards very fast, Rust-based TypeScript tooling, which web devs are in love with.

    So yah, very interesting.

    But yeah, DHH 🖕🖕

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Why is transpilation unappealing to you?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Being honest, I'm an outsider looking in. Most likely these things are solved problems, but alternates are always interesting to hear insider opinions on.

    Sounds like it's developer experience Vs required post processing in this case, which is a reasonable tradeoff to think about

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    i wish a more performing language would have this type system. the only other ones I know are Rust which is a bit strict and slow to dev on, and Haskell which is too much.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Fully agree.

    I hear good things about OCaml? Anyone tried that?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (3 children)

    I asked chatgpt for a few languages with a good typesystem and it suggested ocaml among other (scala, rust, haskell, f#)

    Then asked for a 100 line ocaml REST API example with a popular framework and db lib.. and it looks mostly like Haskell.

    edit: async is done with monads

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    If it looks mostly like Haskell but has better tooling, I'm in. I have yet to manage to successfully set up a Haskell environment on my own PC. 😅 I am obviously missing something.

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