▲ 418 ▼ Valve makes almost $50 million per employee, raking in more cash per person than Google, Amazon, or Microsoft — gaming giant's 350 employees on track to generate $17 billion this year (www.tomshardware.com) submitted 11 months ago by alessandro@lemmy.ca to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca 119 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Triumph@fedia.io 160 points 11 months ago (17 children) Revenue. Revenue is not profit. permalink fedilink source hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] m4ylame0wecm@lemmy.zip 65 points 11 months ago (13 children) Correct. The article is discussing revenue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Triumph@fedia.io 35 points 11 months ago (12 children) The headline is misleading, it was worth mentioning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Zorque@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (8 children) I don't think it's misleading, "generating" implies gross profit, not net. It's not explicit, but it's also not misleading. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Triumph@fedia.io -1 points 11 months ago (7 children) "Makes". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 months ago* I "make" my gross pay. I don't really talk about "making" my net pay. I don't much think about my net pay, outside of actual budgeting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zorque@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (5 children) Again, implying gross profit, not net. It didn't say "makes" 50 million profit. You are inferring something that is not otherwise implied. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago (1 child) Nah he's right. Nobody buys a widget for 5 bucks and sells it for 10 bucks and says, "I made 10 bucks". By your rational I could buy a car new for 25 grand, sell it 10 years later for 12 grand and say I "made" 12 grand off it. "Make" has typically implied profit for as long as I can remember. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] stray@pawb.social 3 points 11 months ago I interpreted it as profit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Triumph@fedia.io 5 points 11 months ago (2 children) Considering that I've seen conflation of revenue and profit from actual journalists, I stand by my previous statement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheDudeV2@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) Buddy. Take a breath for a moment. I mean this constructively; it's an opportunity to learn. What you've just said here is essentially this: Some journalists sometimes make errors. Therefore I choose to make an interpretive error. Please remember, we all make errors (myself included). The best of us learn from them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago Not just that but I mean journalism geez. I can't think of a profession that has had more of a fall from grace in the last 20 years. Furthermore the implication here is video game journalism, which has always been the lowest form of Journalism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] njm1314@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (2 children) It's not misleading, you've just purposely ignored the meaning of the words to instead imply your own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 2 points 11 months ago Have you ever considered that different people can interpret things differently? Why are you jumping down someone's throat for clarifying an ambiguous title? permalink fedilink source parent [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone -4 points 11 months ago Is this fun for you? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ugurcan@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (2 children) Then again, somehow I don’t expect Valve’s expenditures are that high, except download server costs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago Eh, that could also include sales revenue, of which Valve pays out 70% to right holders. permalink fedilink source parent [–] crypt0cler1c@infosec.pub 4 points 11 months ago People are the biggest cost for sure. Then servers probably. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] m4ylame0wecm@lemmy.zip 65 points 11 months ago (13 children) Correct. The article is discussing revenue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Triumph@fedia.io 35 points 11 months ago (12 children) The headline is misleading, it was worth mentioning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Zorque@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (8 children) I don't think it's misleading, "generating" implies gross profit, not net. It's not explicit, but it's also not misleading. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Triumph@fedia.io -1 points 11 months ago (7 children) "Makes". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 months ago* I "make" my gross pay. I don't really talk about "making" my net pay. I don't much think about my net pay, outside of actual budgeting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zorque@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (5 children) Again, implying gross profit, not net. It didn't say "makes" 50 million profit. You are inferring something that is not otherwise implied. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago (1 child) Nah he's right. Nobody buys a widget for 5 bucks and sells it for 10 bucks and says, "I made 10 bucks". By your rational I could buy a car new for 25 grand, sell it 10 years later for 12 grand and say I "made" 12 grand off it. "Make" has typically implied profit for as long as I can remember. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] stray@pawb.social 3 points 11 months ago I interpreted it as profit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Triumph@fedia.io 5 points 11 months ago (2 children) Considering that I've seen conflation of revenue and profit from actual journalists, I stand by my previous statement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheDudeV2@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) Buddy. Take a breath for a moment. I mean this constructively; it's an opportunity to learn. What you've just said here is essentially this: Some journalists sometimes make errors. Therefore I choose to make an interpretive error. Please remember, we all make errors (myself included). The best of us learn from them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago Not just that but I mean journalism geez. I can't think of a profession that has had more of a fall from grace in the last 20 years. Furthermore the implication here is video game journalism, which has always been the lowest form of Journalism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] njm1314@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (2 children) It's not misleading, you've just purposely ignored the meaning of the words to instead imply your own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 2 points 11 months ago Have you ever considered that different people can interpret things differently? Why are you jumping down someone's throat for clarifying an ambiguous title? permalink fedilink source parent [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone -4 points 11 months ago Is this fun for you? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Triumph@fedia.io 35 points 11 months ago (12 children) The headline is misleading, it was worth mentioning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Zorque@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (8 children) I don't think it's misleading, "generating" implies gross profit, not net. It's not explicit, but it's also not misleading. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Triumph@fedia.io -1 points 11 months ago (7 children) "Makes". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 months ago* I "make" my gross pay. I don't really talk about "making" my net pay. I don't much think about my net pay, outside of actual budgeting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zorque@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (5 children) Again, implying gross profit, not net. It didn't say "makes" 50 million profit. You are inferring something that is not otherwise implied. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago (1 child) Nah he's right. Nobody buys a widget for 5 bucks and sells it for 10 bucks and says, "I made 10 bucks". By your rational I could buy a car new for 25 grand, sell it 10 years later for 12 grand and say I "made" 12 grand off it. "Make" has typically implied profit for as long as I can remember. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] stray@pawb.social 3 points 11 months ago I interpreted it as profit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Triumph@fedia.io 5 points 11 months ago (2 children) Considering that I've seen conflation of revenue and profit from actual journalists, I stand by my previous statement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheDudeV2@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) Buddy. Take a breath for a moment. I mean this constructively; it's an opportunity to learn. What you've just said here is essentially this: Some journalists sometimes make errors. Therefore I choose to make an interpretive error. Please remember, we all make errors (myself included). The best of us learn from them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago Not just that but I mean journalism geez. I can't think of a profession that has had more of a fall from grace in the last 20 years. Furthermore the implication here is video game journalism, which has always been the lowest form of Journalism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] njm1314@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (2 children) It's not misleading, you've just purposely ignored the meaning of the words to instead imply your own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 2 points 11 months ago Have you ever considered that different people can interpret things differently? Why are you jumping down someone's throat for clarifying an ambiguous title? permalink fedilink source parent [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone -4 points 11 months ago Is this fun for you? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (8 children) I don't think it's misleading, "generating" implies gross profit, not net. It's not explicit, but it's also not misleading. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Triumph@fedia.io -1 points 11 months ago (7 children) "Makes". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 months ago* I "make" my gross pay. I don't really talk about "making" my net pay. I don't much think about my net pay, outside of actual budgeting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zorque@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (5 children) Again, implying gross profit, not net. It didn't say "makes" 50 million profit. You are inferring something that is not otherwise implied. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago (1 child) Nah he's right. Nobody buys a widget for 5 bucks and sells it for 10 bucks and says, "I made 10 bucks". By your rational I could buy a car new for 25 grand, sell it 10 years later for 12 grand and say I "made" 12 grand off it. "Make" has typically implied profit for as long as I can remember. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] stray@pawb.social 3 points 11 months ago I interpreted it as profit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Triumph@fedia.io 5 points 11 months ago (2 children) Considering that I've seen conflation of revenue and profit from actual journalists, I stand by my previous statement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheDudeV2@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) Buddy. Take a breath for a moment. I mean this constructively; it's an opportunity to learn. What you've just said here is essentially this: Some journalists sometimes make errors. Therefore I choose to make an interpretive error. Please remember, we all make errors (myself included). The best of us learn from them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago Not just that but I mean journalism geez. I can't think of a profession that has had more of a fall from grace in the last 20 years. Furthermore the implication here is video game journalism, which has always been the lowest form of Journalism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Triumph@fedia.io -1 points 11 months ago (7 children) "Makes". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 months ago* I "make" my gross pay. I don't really talk about "making" my net pay. I don't much think about my net pay, outside of actual budgeting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zorque@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (5 children) Again, implying gross profit, not net. It didn't say "makes" 50 million profit. You are inferring something that is not otherwise implied. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago (1 child) Nah he's right. Nobody buys a widget for 5 bucks and sells it for 10 bucks and says, "I made 10 bucks". By your rational I could buy a car new for 25 grand, sell it 10 years later for 12 grand and say I "made" 12 grand off it. "Make" has typically implied profit for as long as I can remember. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] stray@pawb.social 3 points 11 months ago I interpreted it as profit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Triumph@fedia.io 5 points 11 months ago (2 children) Considering that I've seen conflation of revenue and profit from actual journalists, I stand by my previous statement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheDudeV2@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) Buddy. Take a breath for a moment. I mean this constructively; it's an opportunity to learn. What you've just said here is essentially this: Some journalists sometimes make errors. Therefore I choose to make an interpretive error. Please remember, we all make errors (myself included). The best of us learn from them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago Not just that but I mean journalism geez. I can't think of a profession that has had more of a fall from grace in the last 20 years. Furthermore the implication here is video game journalism, which has always been the lowest form of Journalism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 months ago* I "make" my gross pay. I don't really talk about "making" my net pay. I don't much think about my net pay, outside of actual budgeting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (5 children) Again, implying gross profit, not net. It didn't say "makes" 50 million profit. You are inferring something that is not otherwise implied. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago (1 child) Nah he's right. Nobody buys a widget for 5 bucks and sells it for 10 bucks and says, "I made 10 bucks". By your rational I could buy a car new for 25 grand, sell it 10 years later for 12 grand and say I "made" 12 grand off it. "Make" has typically implied profit for as long as I can remember. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] stray@pawb.social 3 points 11 months ago I interpreted it as profit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Triumph@fedia.io 5 points 11 months ago (2 children) Considering that I've seen conflation of revenue and profit from actual journalists, I stand by my previous statement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheDudeV2@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) Buddy. Take a breath for a moment. I mean this constructively; it's an opportunity to learn. What you've just said here is essentially this: Some journalists sometimes make errors. Therefore I choose to make an interpretive error. Please remember, we all make errors (myself included). The best of us learn from them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago Not just that but I mean journalism geez. I can't think of a profession that has had more of a fall from grace in the last 20 years. Furthermore the implication here is video game journalism, which has always been the lowest form of Journalism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago (1 child) Nah he's right. Nobody buys a widget for 5 bucks and sells it for 10 bucks and says, "I made 10 bucks". By your rational I could buy a car new for 25 grand, sell it 10 years later for 12 grand and say I "made" 12 grand off it. "Make" has typically implied profit for as long as I can remember. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] stray@pawb.social 3 points 11 months ago I interpreted it as profit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stray@pawb.social 3 points 11 months ago I interpreted it as profit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Triumph@fedia.io 5 points 11 months ago (2 children) Considering that I've seen conflation of revenue and profit from actual journalists, I stand by my previous statement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheDudeV2@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) Buddy. Take a breath for a moment. I mean this constructively; it's an opportunity to learn. What you've just said here is essentially this: Some journalists sometimes make errors. Therefore I choose to make an interpretive error. Please remember, we all make errors (myself included). The best of us learn from them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago Not just that but I mean journalism geez. I can't think of a profession that has had more of a fall from grace in the last 20 years. Furthermore the implication here is video game journalism, which has always been the lowest form of Journalism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheDudeV2@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) Buddy. Take a breath for a moment. I mean this constructively; it's an opportunity to learn. What you've just said here is essentially this: Some journalists sometimes make errors. Therefore I choose to make an interpretive error. Please remember, we all make errors (myself included). The best of us learn from them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago Not just that but I mean journalism geez. I can't think of a profession that has had more of a fall from grace in the last 20 years. Furthermore the implication here is video game journalism, which has always been the lowest form of Journalism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago Not just that but I mean journalism geez. I can't think of a profession that has had more of a fall from grace in the last 20 years. Furthermore the implication here is video game journalism, which has always been the lowest form of Journalism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (2 children) It's not misleading, you've just purposely ignored the meaning of the words to instead imply your own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 2 points 11 months ago Have you ever considered that different people can interpret things differently? Why are you jumping down someone's throat for clarifying an ambiguous title? permalink fedilink source parent [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone -4 points 11 months ago Is this fun for you? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 2 points 11 months ago Have you ever considered that different people can interpret things differently? Why are you jumping down someone's throat for clarifying an ambiguous title? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone -4 points 11 months ago Is this fun for you? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ugurcan@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (2 children) Then again, somehow I don’t expect Valve’s expenditures are that high, except download server costs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago Eh, that could also include sales revenue, of which Valve pays out 70% to right holders. permalink fedilink source parent [–] crypt0cler1c@infosec.pub 4 points 11 months ago People are the biggest cost for sure. Then servers probably. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago Eh, that could also include sales revenue, of which Valve pays out 70% to right holders. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] crypt0cler1c@infosec.pub 4 points 11 months ago People are the biggest cost for sure. Then servers probably. permalink fedilink source parent