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What's really at the bottom of Trump trying to do a peace deal? (piefed.blahaj.zone)

submitted 11 months ago by LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world

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Is he under threat from Russia? Looking for an excuse to step out? IDK

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[–] mycatscool@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Trump has been in bed with Putin and Russia for a long time.

He was even impeached for it, but the United States legal system failed to do anything about it or Trump's other bazillion crimes, and American voters are the biggest fools on the planet and gave him power again.

Trump has been championing "peace deals" between Russia and Ukraine throughout his second term periodically and they all involve capitulating to Putin and the United States sucking off the teat of Ukraine's resources.

The reason is money and power. Trump and his team of fascists the world over want to control everything that there is and people like Zelenskyy and the innocent people of Ukraine present an obstacle in that they have been incredibly persistent in standing up against aggression.

Trump and his team have been happy turning the United States into a mafioso oligarchy similar to that of Russia and Putin is therefor a natural ally and has taught them a lot on how to manipulate political systems, media, and populations, and create a system of fear and control.

I have no doubt there is a plethora of corruption, blackmail, and a litany of moral and legal fuckery going on between the oligarchs of Russia and the oligarchs of the United States on a daily basis.

Seems to me Trump's "peace deal" is a pathway for the US and Russia to split the wealth of Ukraine, disrupt NATO's ability to defend Europe, and warn others not to stand up to fascism as the new world order.

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[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone [S] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Of course it's not just Trump and Putins blackmail and/or bribery it's all the rich people in both countries. It's a chessboard with a fuckton of pieces.

Do you think Ukraine will take it?

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[–] mycatscool@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 child)

Zelenskyy has proven to be an incredibly intelligent, capable, and strategic leader and thinker. From how he has managed past struggles and other offers from Trump, I do not think he would accept this deal.

I feel Zelenskyy will try to negotiate the deal into a watered-down deal that will amount to no one get anything substantial and having nothing changed, but will let Trump bring back a piece of paper to wave to his MAGA supporters that he is a "peace maker," to pile on top of his other lies.

I see US support waning to matter what the outcome of this and I am hoping Ukraine will continue its resistance to Russia with increased support from Europe and other Western-allied nations.

My heart will break for Ukraine if the deal is accepted, as it will ensure the continued genocidal acts against the Ukrainian people and culture, and the increased instability of the world, but truly I have absolutely no idea what will happen.

Crazy, awful times we live in and it is so unfair that regular people who are just trying to live their lives in peace are the ones who suffer for madmen who sustain this suffering.

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[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone [S] 3 points 11 months ago

That's a good point, Trump wants the piece of paper and Zelensky will try to give him that. And I totally agree

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