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[–] 134 points 11 months ago* (18 children)

there’s a lot more to what it means to be perceived as gay in this society than just that person, personally hating gay people.
i had someone say that to me and i’m just extremely self conscious so i was just trying to figure out why….
was it my tone of voice? mannerisms?
all these penises in my mouth?
Is that why women are seldom romantically interested in me? Do they all think i’m gay? is that the key to my loneliness? (probably just the ugly part).
if you tell someone, “oh i figured you like country music” and they don’t, they’re going to wonder why.
and i don’t know if they stopped, but kids used to be pretty mean calling people gay… it can be kind of a “touching on childhood trauma” thing.

my advice: don’t “trick” people with clever “tests” and try to be genuine with your friends. If you’re gay and you have straight friends, those friends probably aren’t the problem even if they have a problem with being misidentified as gay.

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  • [–] 50 points 11 months ago

    my advice: don’t “trick” people with clever “tests” and try to be genuine with your friends.

    That's was my reaction to reading this, it's like shittestting in a relationship. YOU are the asshole if you do that. You're also an asshole if you think your straight friends would react like that. You're also terrible at picking your friends.

    This post is basically saying "your straight friends aren't actually your friends, this is how you can prove it"

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago*

    Agree. Let's approach this from the rational angle. "If they don't react how I think they should react, then they must be..." But that's clearly not a rational process. Its not even a decent heuristic.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I feel the need to emphasize that there is no difference between a straight person and a gay person outside of where they fall on the kinsey scale, just as there's no difference between a trans person and a cis person, outside of the difference between their physical traits and preferred gender.

    People are made up of tens of billions of neurons firing in a complicated puzzle, every one of us is unique and different. We should use caution and discretion in defining and perceiving the labels we use to categorize people using any trait that is not directly influenced by that trait.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    i don’t believe in labeling people as such either, but for the sake of being able to communicate i’ve used the vernacular terms aforementioned, here within.
    Also the kinsey scale is yet another human attempt to collapse the broad, multidimensional aspects of sexuality into a one dimensional “scale”. Like the “political spectrum” plane, it’s overly reductive and attempts to understand and explain the elephant by feeling its tail.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    I think that's more of a tell on your own insecurities if the notion makes you uncomfortable. You can't tell if someone is gay, even if there are some trends/social queues.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    you should look up “gaydar”

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago* (9 children)

    I feel that was covered by saying "trends/social queues"

    "Gaydar" is just making a guess based on social queues. Maybe it's an educated guess but it is a guess.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (6 children)

    no, that’s how someone straight would guess….
    gaydar is more of an intuition

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Intuition - "quick and ready insight; the power of knowing things without conscious reasoning."

    Iunno, I think that's covered by "social cueues and tendencies". Your intuition is still fueled by the things you perceive and isn't magic, or necessarily accurate.

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