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Switch to a Fully free Operating System (piefed.social)
submitted 11 months ago by to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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As per fsf only those linux distributions are 100% free:

Dragora
Dyne
Guix
Hyperbola
Parabola
PureOS
Trisquel
Ututo
libreCMC
ProteanOS

Do you agree or no?

I see a lot of people that want to switch from windows to a linux distro or a open os. But from what i see they tend to migrate to another black boxed/closed os.

What is a trully free os that doesnt included any closed code/binary blobs/closed drivers etc.

Just 100% free open code, no traps.

What are the options and what should one go with if they want fully free os that rejects any closed code?

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[+] [S] -6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (12 children)

kernel is not free
it ships with blobs/proprietary crap etc
if it was free gnu-linux libre wouldnt have existed

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    The kernel itself does not contain blobs, firmware or microcode. That is loaded after boot if you've chosen to do so.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    lol i'm sure the average joe who switches from windows to you name what linux distro does this by himself and not the os doing it for him wtf

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    So, you have an open system with coreboot, and do not use firmware?

    You don't load the microcode patches that makes you CPU safe?

    You know that then you should not use any browser with JS or WASM engine? just asking because those exploits are still being used ...

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    I'm responding to this:

    kernel is not free it ships with blobs/proprietary crap etc

    That is not true.

    lol i'm sure the average joe who switches from windows to you name what linux distro does this by himself

    Neither do you. And what that has to do with windows users is beyond me.

    If you want gnu/herd, you're free to install and use it. You will have no:

    • MP3 playback
    • use for wine (wine is Foss, but almost no windows executables are)
    • practically no WiFi
    • no discord
    • no zoom
    • no widevine
    • no ms teams working properly

    Drawing a hard line in the sand about FOSS is possible, but you must give up many modern conveniences.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)
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  • [–] [S] -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

    Explain then why gnu-linux libre kernel exists if linux kernel is totally free?

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I don't know, they seem to scrub everything related to firmware loading and more. A whole while ago, the kernel contained blobs. Those are moved to the Linux firmware project and no longer part of the kernel l.

    So, you are the one here claiming stuff. Proof it. Where is the firmware in the kernel tree?

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    you dont know but yet you talk rubbish

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    You claimed there are binary firmware blobs in the Kernel tree. And the kernel is not free. That is your claim. Proof it!

    I am building my kernel from sources. I am writing Kernel modules. I damn well know what in the kernel is.

    So, come on. If this such a critical issue that you will for sure have no issues to proof it.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Have ever tried to learn what exactly their scrips doing of their project please do ,the most worst part they hidding bummer that u are running not secure microcode .I like ideas behind fsf but their paradigm and what they trying to do is useless and not effective anymore we need something new with same ideas

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