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Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme (www.dublinlive.ie)
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[–] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I seriously doubt it was just the meme - but shitty fanatics do happen to use excessive force for no reason

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    What causes you to doubt it was just the meme?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It's a defense mechanism. If people are having their liberties stripped away and are being subject to violence over something so little as a harmless meme, then it could happen to anybody including yourself.

    But if there are details not being reported on that would give the border agents a legitimate reason to assault the victim here, like real threats against government officials, being a menace through customs, or otherwise something any normal person would not do, then the victim deserved it and normal law-abiding people can continue to feel secure knowing they're safe from this treatment so long as they don't do whatever the victim did to deserve that treatment.

    There's a similar effect for sexual assault victims: "They were asking for it because of what they were wearing/who they misplaced their trust in/where they chose to walk alone at night". It's all designed to put fault on the victim in order to maintain a false sense of security for the average person.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Misreporting or straight out false reporting in the media is a thing. As a rule of thumb the more emotionally charged the news is the higher chance of it being a manipulation.

    This was the case of George Floyd murder where media consistently avoided reporting that victim was a repeated criminal.

    I fell for that once. Not gonna happen again

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Ah, the old "he committed a crime (but the courts let him out), so he deserves to die" angle. Love to see it.

    Have you ever been ticketed for speeding? That very literally makes you a criminal. Do you think you deserve to die for that?

    When criminals don't have rights, you don't have rights, because it's trivial to label you a criminal.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    So are you saying that because George Floyd had a criminal history he deserved to be slowly murdered without due process, face down in the street with a knee pressing into his neck so hard it prevented him from drawing breath? That all despite him serving his sentence for his convictions, reintegrating into society, and expressing regret over the wrongs of his past (source).

    Don't you see what you're doing? "He had a rough history so no wonder he was the victim of unjustified police violence. Surely that would never happen to anybody who's never done a bad thing in their life like me."

    Edit: It's totally fair to approach news reporting with a healthy level of skepticism. But justifying authoritarian violence based on the fact that news outlets sometimes withhold information seems like poor judgement to me. When they violate anybody's liberties, they violate yours too. And when they do come for you, how will you feel about the public reaction being, "meh, they probably had it coming".

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