▲ 211 ▼ Switzerland plans surveillance worse than US | Tuta (tuta.com) submitted 11 months ago by Blaze@piefed.zip to c/privacy@programming.dev 17 comments fedilink hide all child comments Revision of Swiss surveillance law VÜPF would directly target VPN & encrypted chat and email providers based in Switzerland.
[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (2 children) Why not say Proton by name? JFC, this is targeted. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HatFullOfSky@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 child) What are you on about? They literally mention Proton by name, with a link, in the second paragraph. Plus, this isn't trying to subtly call out Proton, they're a related party in Tuta's concern about Switzerland's potential privacy laws. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago I'm talking about the specific language of the policy, as written. Typically policies don't name people or companies because, especially for companies, it's not hard to close and re-open under a new name and then the policy no longer applies. Beyond Proton, more than 5,000 users would likely also apply for university networks, and 20-30 large businesses. So like Nestle, Rolex, Swiss Air, Glencore, Novartis, etc. But they would log all their IPs by default to prevent compromised accounts. So something like this is tailored specifically to affect only Proton, but won't name them specifically. It's also interesting that Swiss financial privacy for big money would remain untouched, which relies on trust of the bank. From a policy wonk perspective, this is the Swiss FDJP has declared Proton persona non grata. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HatFullOfSky@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 child) What are you on about? They literally mention Proton by name, with a link, in the second paragraph. Plus, this isn't trying to subtly call out Proton, they're a related party in Tuta's concern about Switzerland's potential privacy laws. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago I'm talking about the specific language of the policy, as written. Typically policies don't name people or companies because, especially for companies, it's not hard to close and re-open under a new name and then the policy no longer applies. Beyond Proton, more than 5,000 users would likely also apply for university networks, and 20-30 large businesses. So like Nestle, Rolex, Swiss Air, Glencore, Novartis, etc. But they would log all their IPs by default to prevent compromised accounts. So something like this is tailored specifically to affect only Proton, but won't name them specifically. It's also interesting that Swiss financial privacy for big money would remain untouched, which relies on trust of the bank. From a policy wonk perspective, this is the Swiss FDJP has declared Proton persona non grata. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago I'm talking about the specific language of the policy, as written. Typically policies don't name people or companies because, especially for companies, it's not hard to close and re-open under a new name and then the policy no longer applies. Beyond Proton, more than 5,000 users would likely also apply for university networks, and 20-30 large businesses. So like Nestle, Rolex, Swiss Air, Glencore, Novartis, etc. But they would log all their IPs by default to prevent compromised accounts. So something like this is tailored specifically to affect only Proton, but won't name them specifically. It's also interesting that Swiss financial privacy for big money would remain untouched, which relies on trust of the bank. From a policy wonk perspective, this is the Swiss FDJP has declared Proton persona non grata. permalink fedilink source parent