▲ 961 ▼ This is an official account of the US Government (lemmy.world) submitted 11 months ago by Voyarel@lemmy.world to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works locked 86 comments fedilink hide all child comments Source
[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 210 points 11 months ago (19 children) and they wonder why i don't shed a tear when ice agents die permalink fedilink source hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 125 points 11 months ago (4 children) Some of us cry when climaxing. Maybe don't be a dick about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 52 points 11 months ago (3 children) There’s no shame in crymaxing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] JollyBrancher@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 months ago (2 children) Only crymin-maxing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] errer@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago When you crymin-max you neglect cry roleplay! permalink fedilink source parent [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago What about crylimsup? permalink fedilink source parent [–] renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf 20 points 11 months ago They're dying? :D permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chivera@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago How about a tear of joy? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 7 points 11 months ago I mean I'd rather wish that on the ones that instated the fucking deptartment in the first place. I so long for Nürenberg permalink fedilink source parent [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago I might just start humming the battle hymn of the republic when that happens permalink fedilink source parent [+] saltesc@lemmy.world -50 points 11 months ago* (9 children) Hey, I'm gonna go out there and say plenty of them are Mr Garrisons. We see the same shit in any force. If you need headcount, offer the poor enough and they'll do it. Nit because they agree, but because shits so fucked they're being offered silver lining and more. Always send your energy toward the head of the snake. Those coordinating, those leading. ICE grunts are riddled with fuckheads, but some of them are not. ICE team leaders are guaranteed fuck heads. Up and up and up, the bigger the fuck headery. Aim for the head. Every force in history has socially worked this way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 90 points 11 months ago (3 children) just following orders doesn't cut it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 13 points 11 months ago you're both correct. we need the numbers to go after the top because class traitors trade their morals for $50k. they are complicit in genocide because they are so desperately hungry that they think this is the only way to survive to tomorrow. but by doing that they make survival harder for everyone permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago If you only arrest the order-followers, they'll just fine more order-followers. You need to start at the top and work your way down. permalink fedilink source parent [–] smeenz@lemmy.nz -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) It does for the time being , and will continue to do so, until the fascists are removed from power. Nobody is going to arrest those pricks until they're no longer protected permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 56 points 11 months ago* Nope. If you're a member of ICE in the year 2025 you are an amoral piece of shit that deserves every bit of suffering the universe deals to you. "Just following orders" wasn't an acceptable defense 80 years ago and it isn't now. Honestly the only reason I'm not advocating for direct violence against these monsters is because it will only make the situation worse. Let them burn. permalink fedilink source parent [–] darkmarx@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Yes, leadership is to blame, but leaders are only leaders when people follow. What ICE is doing is not a secret. No one, not a single person, is forced to join ICE. They choose to do so. Everyday when they show up to work, they reaffirm that choice. You're argument is we shouldn't blame the agents for choosing to break apart families, attack people for their race, or kidnap children because the ICE agent needed a job? Fuck that noise. If your personal ethos allows you to destroy other people's lives so you can have a paycheck, then you are morally bankrupt, and I absolutely will blame you for what's happening. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 child) After this is all over, we have all the receipts None of these red hats will ever know peace nor polite society ever again permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago I envy your optimism. Both the idea of it one day being all over, and that there are any consequences, seem to slip farther into the darkness with each passing day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tippy@sh.itjust.works 28 points 11 months ago Sickens me that people are upvoting this and think this way. Oh won't someone think of the poor fascists. They need to provide for their families, so its okay for them to terrorize and kill indiscriminately. These are not golden-hearted dimwits who just need to see the light. This is not a Disney movie with a villain redemption plot. These are fascists, do you understand what that means? They take pleasure in what they do because they think they are purging mutants and heathens for the greater good. The paychecks are a bonus. They are not using them to provide for their beaten children and raped spouses, they are using them to buy bigger guns to slaughter more "others" You want to stay on the fence about fascism, go ahead. I can't stop you, I'm just text on the internet. But you are doing tangible harm to real people in this world by trying to white wash what is happening and giving a pass to the people making it happen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 125 points 11 months ago (4 children) Some of us cry when climaxing. Maybe don't be a dick about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 52 points 11 months ago (3 children) There’s no shame in crymaxing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] JollyBrancher@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 months ago (2 children) Only crymin-maxing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] errer@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago When you crymin-max you neglect cry roleplay! permalink fedilink source parent [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago What about crylimsup? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 52 points 11 months ago (3 children) There’s no shame in crymaxing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] JollyBrancher@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 months ago (2 children) Only crymin-maxing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] errer@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago When you crymin-max you neglect cry roleplay! permalink fedilink source parent [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago What about crylimsup? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JollyBrancher@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 months ago (2 children) Only crymin-maxing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] errer@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago When you crymin-max you neglect cry roleplay! permalink fedilink source parent [–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago What about crylimsup? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] errer@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago When you crymin-max you neglect cry roleplay! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago What about crylimsup? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf 20 points 11 months ago They're dying? :D permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chivera@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago How about a tear of joy? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 7 points 11 months ago I mean I'd rather wish that on the ones that instated the fucking deptartment in the first place. I so long for Nürenberg permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago I might just start humming the battle hymn of the republic when that happens permalink fedilink source parent
[+] saltesc@lemmy.world -50 points 11 months ago* (9 children) Hey, I'm gonna go out there and say plenty of them are Mr Garrisons. We see the same shit in any force. If you need headcount, offer the poor enough and they'll do it. Nit because they agree, but because shits so fucked they're being offered silver lining and more. Always send your energy toward the head of the snake. Those coordinating, those leading. ICE grunts are riddled with fuckheads, but some of them are not. ICE team leaders are guaranteed fuck heads. Up and up and up, the bigger the fuck headery. Aim for the head. Every force in history has socially worked this way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 90 points 11 months ago (3 children) just following orders doesn't cut it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 13 points 11 months ago you're both correct. we need the numbers to go after the top because class traitors trade their morals for $50k. they are complicit in genocide because they are so desperately hungry that they think this is the only way to survive to tomorrow. but by doing that they make survival harder for everyone permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago If you only arrest the order-followers, they'll just fine more order-followers. You need to start at the top and work your way down. permalink fedilink source parent [–] smeenz@lemmy.nz -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) It does for the time being , and will continue to do so, until the fascists are removed from power. Nobody is going to arrest those pricks until they're no longer protected permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 56 points 11 months ago* Nope. If you're a member of ICE in the year 2025 you are an amoral piece of shit that deserves every bit of suffering the universe deals to you. "Just following orders" wasn't an acceptable defense 80 years ago and it isn't now. Honestly the only reason I'm not advocating for direct violence against these monsters is because it will only make the situation worse. Let them burn. permalink fedilink source parent [–] darkmarx@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Yes, leadership is to blame, but leaders are only leaders when people follow. What ICE is doing is not a secret. No one, not a single person, is forced to join ICE. They choose to do so. Everyday when they show up to work, they reaffirm that choice. You're argument is we shouldn't blame the agents for choosing to break apart families, attack people for their race, or kidnap children because the ICE agent needed a job? Fuck that noise. If your personal ethos allows you to destroy other people's lives so you can have a paycheck, then you are morally bankrupt, and I absolutely will blame you for what's happening. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 child) After this is all over, we have all the receipts None of these red hats will ever know peace nor polite society ever again permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago I envy your optimism. Both the idea of it one day being all over, and that there are any consequences, seem to slip farther into the darkness with each passing day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tippy@sh.itjust.works 28 points 11 months ago Sickens me that people are upvoting this and think this way. Oh won't someone think of the poor fascists. They need to provide for their families, so its okay for them to terrorize and kill indiscriminately. These are not golden-hearted dimwits who just need to see the light. This is not a Disney movie with a villain redemption plot. These are fascists, do you understand what that means? They take pleasure in what they do because they think they are purging mutants and heathens for the greater good. The paychecks are a bonus. They are not using them to provide for their beaten children and raped spouses, they are using them to buy bigger guns to slaughter more "others" You want to stay on the fence about fascism, go ahead. I can't stop you, I'm just text on the internet. But you are doing tangible harm to real people in this world by trying to white wash what is happening and giving a pass to the people making it happen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 90 points 11 months ago (3 children) just following orders doesn't cut it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 13 points 11 months ago you're both correct. we need the numbers to go after the top because class traitors trade their morals for $50k. they are complicit in genocide because they are so desperately hungry that they think this is the only way to survive to tomorrow. but by doing that they make survival harder for everyone permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago If you only arrest the order-followers, they'll just fine more order-followers. You need to start at the top and work your way down. permalink fedilink source parent [–] smeenz@lemmy.nz -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) It does for the time being , and will continue to do so, until the fascists are removed from power. Nobody is going to arrest those pricks until they're no longer protected permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 13 points 11 months ago you're both correct. we need the numbers to go after the top because class traitors trade their morals for $50k. they are complicit in genocide because they are so desperately hungry that they think this is the only way to survive to tomorrow. but by doing that they make survival harder for everyone permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago If you only arrest the order-followers, they'll just fine more order-followers. You need to start at the top and work your way down. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) It does for the time being , and will continue to do so, until the fascists are removed from power. Nobody is going to arrest those pricks until they're no longer protected permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 56 points 11 months ago* Nope. If you're a member of ICE in the year 2025 you are an amoral piece of shit that deserves every bit of suffering the universe deals to you. "Just following orders" wasn't an acceptable defense 80 years ago and it isn't now. Honestly the only reason I'm not advocating for direct violence against these monsters is because it will only make the situation worse. Let them burn. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] darkmarx@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Yes, leadership is to blame, but leaders are only leaders when people follow. What ICE is doing is not a secret. No one, not a single person, is forced to join ICE. They choose to do so. Everyday when they show up to work, they reaffirm that choice. You're argument is we shouldn't blame the agents for choosing to break apart families, attack people for their race, or kidnap children because the ICE agent needed a job? Fuck that noise. If your personal ethos allows you to destroy other people's lives so you can have a paycheck, then you are morally bankrupt, and I absolutely will blame you for what's happening. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 child) After this is all over, we have all the receipts None of these red hats will ever know peace nor polite society ever again permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago I envy your optimism. Both the idea of it one day being all over, and that there are any consequences, seem to slip farther into the darkness with each passing day. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago I envy your optimism. Both the idea of it one day being all over, and that there are any consequences, seem to slip farther into the darkness with each passing day. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tippy@sh.itjust.works 28 points 11 months ago Sickens me that people are upvoting this and think this way. Oh won't someone think of the poor fascists. They need to provide for their families, so its okay for them to terrorize and kill indiscriminately. These are not golden-hearted dimwits who just need to see the light. This is not a Disney movie with a villain redemption plot. These are fascists, do you understand what that means? They take pleasure in what they do because they think they are purging mutants and heathens for the greater good. The paychecks are a bonus. They are not using them to provide for their beaten children and raped spouses, they are using them to buy bigger guns to slaughter more "others" You want to stay on the fence about fascism, go ahead. I can't stop you, I'm just text on the internet. But you are doing tangible harm to real people in this world by trying to white wash what is happening and giving a pass to the people making it happen. permalink fedilink source parent