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[+] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (32 children)
  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I'm not even against the idea¹ of using it for some shitty clip art on your corporate presentation or whatever, but it has decoupled 'images' from 'art' and 'meaning'. They are not artists, they are not making art.

    ¹the practice, however, being ecologically devastating makes it less desirable.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    I'm partial to this only because AI makes my head spin. In theory, it sounds fine to include generated images in your presentation, and I'd be ok with that if it weren't for your caveat about the environment.

    Idk if anyone else has noticed or felt the same, but whenever I look at a few AI images per minute, my headspace and eyesight feel uncomfortable. The missing intentionality, the lack of clarity in some details, the mishmash of real-world proportions with fantasy doesn't sit right with my brain, and it makes me want to look away. It feels like mental exhaustion trying to make sense out of nonsense more often than not.

    E: Here are some examples of what I'm talking about:

    https://thismakesthat.com/bakery-display-ideas/

    https://thismakesthat.com/cookie-display-ideas/

    All of those images show items out of proportion and elements like piles of raw flour meant to enhance the aesthetics, but that totally miss the point of a professional display and ultimately betray the purpose of the article. Just look at those cookies on the wall with hangers. Who would even do that in real life without using inedible materials? It feels gross.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Its extremely uncanny and kinda stupid.

    But as long as i dont focus or get interested in details, it doesnt hurt physically.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    A corporate can afford artist so they should hire artists, the situation is different for private people who may not have money to hire an artist or the skill to do themselves for their need

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    A ten year old child can do that with no foreknowledge whatsoever.

    Yes, that's the idea.

    Anyone can now transmit ideas through your eyeballs, and that's awesome.

    They could also put in effort, and use the tool to finish a sketch they drew, or combine a render and a photograph, or simply rearrange and overwrite generated parts until it looks like what they imagined. How much labor can go into a text that communicates an idea, and still not be art?

    At what point does a definition exclude Koyaanisqatsi?

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  • [+] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    If I paint a landscape by hand, and generate one flower, does it stop being art?

    The craft of Koyaanisqatsi was editing. People have recreated it using stock footage, as a complicated joke, and frankly the message still works. The whole original movie is an arrangement of uncoordinated b-roll. There are no actors. There is no dialog. Any individual part is almost meaningless, but the gestalt is an award-winning cultural touchstone.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago* (18 children)

    Generate an advanced, good looking image using ComfyUI and report back how easy it was. Shit's breaking my mind and I'm good with computers.

    Just to give others an idea: https://learn.thinkdiffusion.com/a-list-of-the-best-comfyui-workflows/

    But then again, I'm talking about generating stuff locally.

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  • [+] -1 points 1 year ago* (17 children)
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    That's not really comparable. I never claimed drawing/painting is easier, you're hallucinating. I'm talking about the competition where generating something isn't always easy.

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  • [+] 2 points 1 year ago (15 children)
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    I literally proved you it requires skills by providing a page of example workflows. Are you still hallucinating?

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago (13 children)
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    And a talented child artist would have what impact on your argument here?

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    No.

    Your argument is, 'it can't be art - a child can do it.'

    Can children make art? Like, the way you understand art gets made. If a kid picking up Stable Diffusion in a week proves it's never art, what is the impact of a child who paints real good after very little practice?

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)
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    What the fuck are you saying, if not that?

    If you can't be corrected when you misread someone else's argument you're just saying words recreationally.

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago* (5 children)
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    YOU misread MY argument, and now - being asked to please explain what you're posturing about - you're posturing harder.

    Do you care about this topic or are you just trolling?

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Ah, so you just spit words into the void and mock anyone who tries engaging with them.

    Troll.

    God forbid anyone act like you believe the things you say, in a logical manner that can be interrogated or defended. You, the protagonist of reality, have spoken. End of story, period, other cliches meaning la la la not listening.

    I don't think you have an argument. You've got a conclusion, yes, but when asked to even reiterate how you got there, all you have is performative sneering.

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