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Does Terminal use actually make sense in the real world? (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/linux@lemmy.world
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I know we all enjoy being nerds and using commands (H4ckerman). But now that everything is either a gui or web based, is there really any use to terminal commands?

For example, on windows I never used powershell or cmd hardly ever. I realize now I probably could have. But Linux just drives me to use it more, which i like anyway (because let's be honest, it makes us feel superior)

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[–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Cmd was torturous and powershell not much better.

Some things are just massively tedious to do through any gui. Sometimes the converse is true.

One reason why LLM is desired as a ui element is that you can describe what you want in text without having to remember how to navigate a bunch of convoluted ui elements. CLI is related, except more precise but more demanding on specifics of input.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    It's certainly capable, and has a more structured pipeline structure saving you in theory from awkwardness of grep/awk sorts of 'processing' that may be out of whack. It also has a command model where whether you are calling cmdlets or .Net functions, it's lighter weight than a typical bash interaciton that has to fork/exec every little thing (and the ability to invoke .Net functions means a lot of capabilities that are normally not directly available to something like bash).

    However, from a user experience, it's got a few things that can be a problem:

    • It's a bit too 'programmer-y', and particularly maybe a bit too perl-y. Some of the same criticisms of how perl can be a bit of a mess carry over to powershell.
    • It's ecosystem is mostly just whatever Microsoft gives to you. The *nix side of the house has had a diverse ecosystem, but Microsoft is largely on their own. Good hooks into most Microsoft products, but not a whole not of third party enablement.
    • Other shells have better and/or richer UX, like fish
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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Powershell is actually really good a manipulating large amounts of data and outputting it how you want, the trouble is the commands are too lengthy and convoluted to remember, so I have to check web sources. While Linux commands are simple and short.

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