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Well, where? (feddit.uk)
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@ed1conf@bsd.network on Mastodon: "Where are you going?" with an image of an edited hoarding asking if the rwser is going to haven or Emacs with a phone number to some Christian organisation.
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[–] 29 points 1 year ago (9 children)

use micro, it's 1000x better

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Thanks, I'll check it out

    Edit: did I just fall for an si prefix joke?

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The SI prefix thing stems from a joke anyway. Allow me to trot out the etymology again:

    Once upon a time in the 1980s, there was created a program for reading ELectronic Mail called Elm.

    Someone created a rival mail reader called Pine, which followed both the tree pun as well as the fact it was a recursive acronym: "Pine is not Elm".

    Pine had an editor called the Pine Composer or Pico for short. Pico is both a typographical term as well as an SI unit. They may have been going for both. Too perfect a pun to pass up, perhaps.

    Due to licensing uncertainty, someone else created a from-scratch clone of Pico called Nano, cementing the continuation of puns, but in the SI direction.

    And then apparently someone else has decided to get on the bandwagon with Micro.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    At the risk of invoking the ire of two communities, why shouldn't we think of Micro as Emacs but with Lua instead of Lisp?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't know how Micro works, and I don't actually use emacs day to day, but as I understand it emacs works a bit like:

    • When you press a key in emacs it invokes a Lisp function that takes as arguments the text buffer that has focus, the parameters of the 'window' into that buffer, and the cursor position in that window.
    • This is the case for any key you press in any context, even for typing normal letters.
    • A 'mode' in emacs is a set of bindings which associate specific keys with specific functions.
    • 'modes' can be stacked on top of each other, with higher modes being able to intercept key presses before they reach lower modes, and changes / manipulate lower modes (I think?)
    • All of the editor's functionality, such as 'search' or 'undo', is implemented in that way.
    • All of this is completely customizable, so pressing a key combo can be made to do virtually anything or manipulate the rest of the editor's systems in any way.

    Does Micro work anything like that?

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    A β€˜mode’ in emacs is a set of bindings which associate specific keys with specific functions.

    Not quite, a mode is basically a lisp function defined with a different macro that integrates it into the various systems (like showing up in the modeline when active). It can do basically anything, including setting keybinds.

    β€˜modes’ can be stacked on top of each other, with higher modes being able to intercept key presses before they reach lower modes, and changes / manipulate lower modes (I think?)

    No, a keybind can only run one function and what that function is is whatever last defined a binding for that key. Like, if one mode defines a key to be something and you activate another that also binds that key, the latter takes over.

    Emacs does have something like you describe, where functions can be 'advised'.

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