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[–] cmeu@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago (36 children) Stop uploading content to YouTube - there are other hosts permalink fedilink source hideshow 36 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 188 points 1 year ago (32 children) Sure. You could upload it to peer-tube, and have it be seen by a whole 11 people! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 32 child comments replies: [–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago (12 children) Honestly, at this point people should use Pornhub. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] kingofthezyx@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 year ago Microsoft Account gets FUCKED by huge command line penetration permalink fedilink source parent [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (3 children) Honestly? If anyone could make a rival for YouTube it would be a big porn hosting site. The infrastructure is already there. Just need to buy another domain and throw money at it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] warm@kbin.earth -9 points 1 year ago (2 children) I dont think anyone will rival youtube, pornhubs infrastructure is no where near youtubes, like at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I dont think you need to overtake YouTube on day 1. Do you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] warm@kbin.earth 0 points 1 year ago* The only competitor I could see YouTube getting is if Twitch decided to chase that route. The only companies with the global infrastructure required for a service as fast as YouTube's are Amazon, Microsoft (and Google). Microsoft gave up on Mixer, so I don't see them ever trying to take on YouTube. Amazon have Twitch, which as mentioned, could try to take on YouTube. But even with owning their own servers and just running them at cost, it would be a massive undertaking and investment. There's a tremendous amount of work to do, that these companies are not going to throw money at for decades just to compete for YouTube's profit margins, which apparently aren't that big (if they even exist). Sites can exist alongside YouTube, We see a lot of smaller video hosting sites, like Dailymotion, but something would have to go seriously wrong at YouTube for any of them to grow meaningfully and become actual competitors. I'd like a competitor as much as anybody, but I'm just being realistic here. Don't underestimate the size of YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (5 children) Blocked in 23 states, unless you want to hand over your digital ID. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago So for what, 100 million people vs 8 billion, it's a problem. I'll take that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago Contrary to popular American belief, the USA is not the center of the Universe permalink fedilink source parent [–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago no one cares about the plights of those living in backwater stone age dictatorships. the modern world must move forward on its own. we Americans have to get used to being left behind and left out of conversations by real adults now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago I don't care if anything I've ever posted is blocked in 50 states. Americans assume they are the center of the world. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 12 points 1 year ago they're not important permalink fedilink source parent [–] officermike@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago As a Floridian, I have to use a VPN for that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bougie_Birdie@piefed.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 year ago (2 children) In this case, you could upload it to YouTube where it will be taken down and seen by a whole no people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) No no. It'll still be seen by thousands before it's taken down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Thousands of bots. Also it has to get around the many rules Youtube itself has for the all mighty algorithm. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 68 points 1 year ago (6 children) There was a time Youtube videos would only be seen by 11 people. But it grew because people posted videos anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] moody@lemmings.world 51 points 1 year ago (5 children) It grew because it was the only platform that did it. If you want views, you have to go where the viewers are. Current alternatives are sorely lacking. If you want the smaller platforms to grow, you do need to post there, but ignoring the existing giant won't get you seen unfortunately. At the very least, you should do both. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HeneryHawk@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago (4 children) YouTube was not the only platform back then but I agree it dwarfs what is around now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (3 children) there were very very very few platforms where you could post and share streaming video online when YouTube was new. it was certainly the only free option. the internet was quite young then if you don't remember. other platforms rose up around their success, but I'm pretty sure YouTube was more or less unique when it started. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] diablexical@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I was going to say vimeo but checked the dates to make sure I remembered right - looks like it was up even before youtube 2004 vs 2005. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* oh wow, i thought for sure it came later. i should stop making snap comments when m waking up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeneryHawk@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago Wasn't dailymotion and liveleak around before YouTube? And it took YouTube some time before it became the mammoth it is now permalink fedilink source parent [–] thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 1 year ago (3 children) Or Odysee!! A well established platform with decentralised video storage and a FOSS app that lets you browse all videos with relatively fast loading. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) And craptastic search and discovery features. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Yeah, but discovery optimisation algorithms are what got YouTube into the mess it's in. I'm okay with a more natural, look for what you want style, as opposed to being handed video after video to waste time and oversaturate your mind. I wouldn't know too much about the searching issue. What problems have you noticed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I found that it has zero ability to infer and suggest from what I'm typing. If I typo "mine inch", easy to do on a phone keyboard, it is completely lost. But YouTube knows that I'm definitely looking for nine inch nails. "Chicken tr" on YouTube knows I'm looking for chicken tractors before I even finish, Odyssey is completely lost and requires me to type the whole thing out. When I'm searching for music it requires me to know exactly what I'm looking for and doesn't offer much in the way of exploration help. permalink fedilink source parent [–] markko@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago That would be great for those 11 people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UltraMagnus@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago Hey man, the playing-pinball-while-a-cat-interferes peertube community is very close-knit (https://video.apz.fi/). I kid, but it's true that peertube lacks the dopamine hooks and variety that youtube does. It's much harder to sink hours into watching a bunch of videos that you'll only half remember by the next day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] other_cat@piefed.zip 5 points 1 year ago Why not both, it's not like The Internet Police will stop you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cmeu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago A little ironic that this comment posted on Lemmy (tiny competitor to reddit) Viewers go where the content is, yes, but you don't get content on alternative sites if you don't post there. YouTube in the old days was awesome. Then Google happened to it. When it first started it was quite small. Principles matter! permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] chunes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago Better yet, this would be much better and easier to host as written instructions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bookmeat@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Which of them help normies monetize their videos? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cmeu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago A quick Google search brought up a few alternatives that can do that, but what's the monetization potential for a removed video on YouTube? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 188 points 1 year ago (32 children) Sure. You could upload it to peer-tube, and have it be seen by a whole 11 people! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 32 child comments replies: [–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago (12 children) Honestly, at this point people should use Pornhub. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] kingofthezyx@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 year ago Microsoft Account gets FUCKED by huge command line penetration permalink fedilink source parent [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (3 children) Honestly? If anyone could make a rival for YouTube it would be a big porn hosting site. The infrastructure is already there. Just need to buy another domain and throw money at it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] warm@kbin.earth -9 points 1 year ago (2 children) I dont think anyone will rival youtube, pornhubs infrastructure is no where near youtubes, like at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I dont think you need to overtake YouTube on day 1. Do you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] warm@kbin.earth 0 points 1 year ago* The only competitor I could see YouTube getting is if Twitch decided to chase that route. The only companies with the global infrastructure required for a service as fast as YouTube's are Amazon, Microsoft (and Google). Microsoft gave up on Mixer, so I don't see them ever trying to take on YouTube. Amazon have Twitch, which as mentioned, could try to take on YouTube. But even with owning their own servers and just running them at cost, it would be a massive undertaking and investment. There's a tremendous amount of work to do, that these companies are not going to throw money at for decades just to compete for YouTube's profit margins, which apparently aren't that big (if they even exist). Sites can exist alongside YouTube, We see a lot of smaller video hosting sites, like Dailymotion, but something would have to go seriously wrong at YouTube for any of them to grow meaningfully and become actual competitors. I'd like a competitor as much as anybody, but I'm just being realistic here. Don't underestimate the size of YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (5 children) Blocked in 23 states, unless you want to hand over your digital ID. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago So for what, 100 million people vs 8 billion, it's a problem. I'll take that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago Contrary to popular American belief, the USA is not the center of the Universe permalink fedilink source parent [–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago no one cares about the plights of those living in backwater stone age dictatorships. the modern world must move forward on its own. we Americans have to get used to being left behind and left out of conversations by real adults now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago I don't care if anything I've ever posted is blocked in 50 states. Americans assume they are the center of the world. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 12 points 1 year ago they're not important permalink fedilink source parent [–] officermike@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago As a Floridian, I have to use a VPN for that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bougie_Birdie@piefed.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 year ago (2 children) In this case, you could upload it to YouTube where it will be taken down and seen by a whole no people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) No no. It'll still be seen by thousands before it's taken down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Thousands of bots. Also it has to get around the many rules Youtube itself has for the all mighty algorithm. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 68 points 1 year ago (6 children) There was a time Youtube videos would only be seen by 11 people. But it grew because people posted videos anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] moody@lemmings.world 51 points 1 year ago (5 children) It grew because it was the only platform that did it. If you want views, you have to go where the viewers are. Current alternatives are sorely lacking. If you want the smaller platforms to grow, you do need to post there, but ignoring the existing giant won't get you seen unfortunately. At the very least, you should do both. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HeneryHawk@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago (4 children) YouTube was not the only platform back then but I agree it dwarfs what is around now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (3 children) there were very very very few platforms where you could post and share streaming video online when YouTube was new. it was certainly the only free option. the internet was quite young then if you don't remember. other platforms rose up around their success, but I'm pretty sure YouTube was more or less unique when it started. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] diablexical@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I was going to say vimeo but checked the dates to make sure I remembered right - looks like it was up even before youtube 2004 vs 2005. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* oh wow, i thought for sure it came later. i should stop making snap comments when m waking up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeneryHawk@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago Wasn't dailymotion and liveleak around before YouTube? And it took YouTube some time before it became the mammoth it is now permalink fedilink source parent [–] thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 1 year ago (3 children) Or Odysee!! A well established platform with decentralised video storage and a FOSS app that lets you browse all videos with relatively fast loading. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) And craptastic search and discovery features. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Yeah, but discovery optimisation algorithms are what got YouTube into the mess it's in. I'm okay with a more natural, look for what you want style, as opposed to being handed video after video to waste time and oversaturate your mind. I wouldn't know too much about the searching issue. What problems have you noticed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I found that it has zero ability to infer and suggest from what I'm typing. If I typo "mine inch", easy to do on a phone keyboard, it is completely lost. But YouTube knows that I'm definitely looking for nine inch nails. "Chicken tr" on YouTube knows I'm looking for chicken tractors before I even finish, Odyssey is completely lost and requires me to type the whole thing out. When I'm searching for music it requires me to know exactly what I'm looking for and doesn't offer much in the way of exploration help. permalink fedilink source parent [–] markko@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago That would be great for those 11 people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UltraMagnus@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago Hey man, the playing-pinball-while-a-cat-interferes peertube community is very close-knit (https://video.apz.fi/). I kid, but it's true that peertube lacks the dopamine hooks and variety that youtube does. It's much harder to sink hours into watching a bunch of videos that you'll only half remember by the next day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] other_cat@piefed.zip 5 points 1 year ago Why not both, it's not like The Internet Police will stop you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cmeu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago A little ironic that this comment posted on Lemmy (tiny competitor to reddit) Viewers go where the content is, yes, but you don't get content on alternative sites if you don't post there. YouTube in the old days was awesome. Then Google happened to it. When it first started it was quite small. Principles matter! permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago (12 children) Honestly, at this point people should use Pornhub. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] kingofthezyx@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 year ago Microsoft Account gets FUCKED by huge command line penetration permalink fedilink source parent [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (3 children) Honestly? If anyone could make a rival for YouTube it would be a big porn hosting site. The infrastructure is already there. Just need to buy another domain and throw money at it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] warm@kbin.earth -9 points 1 year ago (2 children) I dont think anyone will rival youtube, pornhubs infrastructure is no where near youtubes, like at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I dont think you need to overtake YouTube on day 1. Do you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] warm@kbin.earth 0 points 1 year ago* The only competitor I could see YouTube getting is if Twitch decided to chase that route. The only companies with the global infrastructure required for a service as fast as YouTube's are Amazon, Microsoft (and Google). Microsoft gave up on Mixer, so I don't see them ever trying to take on YouTube. Amazon have Twitch, which as mentioned, could try to take on YouTube. But even with owning their own servers and just running them at cost, it would be a massive undertaking and investment. There's a tremendous amount of work to do, that these companies are not going to throw money at for decades just to compete for YouTube's profit margins, which apparently aren't that big (if they even exist). Sites can exist alongside YouTube, We see a lot of smaller video hosting sites, like Dailymotion, but something would have to go seriously wrong at YouTube for any of them to grow meaningfully and become actual competitors. I'd like a competitor as much as anybody, but I'm just being realistic here. Don't underestimate the size of YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (5 children) Blocked in 23 states, unless you want to hand over your digital ID. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago So for what, 100 million people vs 8 billion, it's a problem. I'll take that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago Contrary to popular American belief, the USA is not the center of the Universe permalink fedilink source parent [–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago no one cares about the plights of those living in backwater stone age dictatorships. the modern world must move forward on its own. we Americans have to get used to being left behind and left out of conversations by real adults now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago I don't care if anything I've ever posted is blocked in 50 states. Americans assume they are the center of the world. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 12 points 1 year ago they're not important permalink fedilink source parent [–] officermike@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago As a Floridian, I have to use a VPN for that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kingofthezyx@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 year ago Microsoft Account gets FUCKED by huge command line penetration permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (3 children) Honestly? If anyone could make a rival for YouTube it would be a big porn hosting site. The infrastructure is already there. Just need to buy another domain and throw money at it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] warm@kbin.earth -9 points 1 year ago (2 children) I dont think anyone will rival youtube, pornhubs infrastructure is no where near youtubes, like at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I dont think you need to overtake YouTube on day 1. Do you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] warm@kbin.earth 0 points 1 year ago* The only competitor I could see YouTube getting is if Twitch decided to chase that route. The only companies with the global infrastructure required for a service as fast as YouTube's are Amazon, Microsoft (and Google). Microsoft gave up on Mixer, so I don't see them ever trying to take on YouTube. Amazon have Twitch, which as mentioned, could try to take on YouTube. But even with owning their own servers and just running them at cost, it would be a massive undertaking and investment. There's a tremendous amount of work to do, that these companies are not going to throw money at for decades just to compete for YouTube's profit margins, which apparently aren't that big (if they even exist). Sites can exist alongside YouTube, We see a lot of smaller video hosting sites, like Dailymotion, but something would have to go seriously wrong at YouTube for any of them to grow meaningfully and become actual competitors. I'd like a competitor as much as anybody, but I'm just being realistic here. Don't underestimate the size of YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] warm@kbin.earth -9 points 1 year ago (2 children) I dont think anyone will rival youtube, pornhubs infrastructure is no where near youtubes, like at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I dont think you need to overtake YouTube on day 1. Do you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] warm@kbin.earth 0 points 1 year ago* The only competitor I could see YouTube getting is if Twitch decided to chase that route. The only companies with the global infrastructure required for a service as fast as YouTube's are Amazon, Microsoft (and Google). Microsoft gave up on Mixer, so I don't see them ever trying to take on YouTube. Amazon have Twitch, which as mentioned, could try to take on YouTube. But even with owning their own servers and just running them at cost, it would be a massive undertaking and investment. There's a tremendous amount of work to do, that these companies are not going to throw money at for decades just to compete for YouTube's profit margins, which apparently aren't that big (if they even exist). Sites can exist alongside YouTube, We see a lot of smaller video hosting sites, like Dailymotion, but something would have to go seriously wrong at YouTube for any of them to grow meaningfully and become actual competitors. I'd like a competitor as much as anybody, but I'm just being realistic here. Don't underestimate the size of YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I dont think you need to overtake YouTube on day 1. Do you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] warm@kbin.earth 0 points 1 year ago* The only competitor I could see YouTube getting is if Twitch decided to chase that route. The only companies with the global infrastructure required for a service as fast as YouTube's are Amazon, Microsoft (and Google). Microsoft gave up on Mixer, so I don't see them ever trying to take on YouTube. Amazon have Twitch, which as mentioned, could try to take on YouTube. But even with owning their own servers and just running them at cost, it would be a massive undertaking and investment. There's a tremendous amount of work to do, that these companies are not going to throw money at for decades just to compete for YouTube's profit margins, which apparently aren't that big (if they even exist). Sites can exist alongside YouTube, We see a lot of smaller video hosting sites, like Dailymotion, but something would have to go seriously wrong at YouTube for any of them to grow meaningfully and become actual competitors. I'd like a competitor as much as anybody, but I'm just being realistic here. Don't underestimate the size of YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] warm@kbin.earth 0 points 1 year ago* The only competitor I could see YouTube getting is if Twitch decided to chase that route. The only companies with the global infrastructure required for a service as fast as YouTube's are Amazon, Microsoft (and Google). Microsoft gave up on Mixer, so I don't see them ever trying to take on YouTube. Amazon have Twitch, which as mentioned, could try to take on YouTube. But even with owning their own servers and just running them at cost, it would be a massive undertaking and investment. There's a tremendous amount of work to do, that these companies are not going to throw money at for decades just to compete for YouTube's profit margins, which apparently aren't that big (if they even exist). Sites can exist alongside YouTube, We see a lot of smaller video hosting sites, like Dailymotion, but something would have to go seriously wrong at YouTube for any of them to grow meaningfully and become actual competitors. I'd like a competitor as much as anybody, but I'm just being realistic here. Don't underestimate the size of YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (5 children) Blocked in 23 states, unless you want to hand over your digital ID. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago So for what, 100 million people vs 8 billion, it's a problem. I'll take that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] demonsword@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago Contrary to popular American belief, the USA is not the center of the Universe permalink fedilink source parent [–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago no one cares about the plights of those living in backwater stone age dictatorships. the modern world must move forward on its own. we Americans have to get used to being left behind and left out of conversations by real adults now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago I don't care if anything I've ever posted is blocked in 50 states. Americans assume they are the center of the world. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 12 points 1 year ago they're not important permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago So for what, 100 million people vs 8 billion, it's a problem. I'll take that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago Contrary to popular American belief, the USA is not the center of the Universe permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago no one cares about the plights of those living in backwater stone age dictatorships. the modern world must move forward on its own. we Americans have to get used to being left behind and left out of conversations by real adults now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago I don't care if anything I've ever posted is blocked in 50 states. Americans assume they are the center of the world. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 12 points 1 year ago they're not important permalink fedilink source parent
[–] officermike@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago As a Floridian, I have to use a VPN for that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bougie_Birdie@piefed.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 year ago (2 children) In this case, you could upload it to YouTube where it will be taken down and seen by a whole no people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) No no. It'll still be seen by thousands before it's taken down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Thousands of bots. Also it has to get around the many rules Youtube itself has for the all mighty algorithm. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) No no. It'll still be seen by thousands before it's taken down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Thousands of bots. Also it has to get around the many rules Youtube itself has for the all mighty algorithm. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Thousands of bots. Also it has to get around the many rules Youtube itself has for the all mighty algorithm. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 68 points 1 year ago (6 children) There was a time Youtube videos would only be seen by 11 people. But it grew because people posted videos anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] moody@lemmings.world 51 points 1 year ago (5 children) It grew because it was the only platform that did it. If you want views, you have to go where the viewers are. Current alternatives are sorely lacking. If you want the smaller platforms to grow, you do need to post there, but ignoring the existing giant won't get you seen unfortunately. At the very least, you should do both. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HeneryHawk@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago (4 children) YouTube was not the only platform back then but I agree it dwarfs what is around now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (3 children) there were very very very few platforms where you could post and share streaming video online when YouTube was new. it was certainly the only free option. the internet was quite young then if you don't remember. other platforms rose up around their success, but I'm pretty sure YouTube was more or less unique when it started. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] diablexical@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I was going to say vimeo but checked the dates to make sure I remembered right - looks like it was up even before youtube 2004 vs 2005. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* oh wow, i thought for sure it came later. i should stop making snap comments when m waking up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeneryHawk@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago Wasn't dailymotion and liveleak around before YouTube? And it took YouTube some time before it became the mammoth it is now permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moody@lemmings.world 51 points 1 year ago (5 children) It grew because it was the only platform that did it. If you want views, you have to go where the viewers are. Current alternatives are sorely lacking. If you want the smaller platforms to grow, you do need to post there, but ignoring the existing giant won't get you seen unfortunately. At the very least, you should do both. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HeneryHawk@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago (4 children) YouTube was not the only platform back then but I agree it dwarfs what is around now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (3 children) there were very very very few platforms where you could post and share streaming video online when YouTube was new. it was certainly the only free option. the internet was quite young then if you don't remember. other platforms rose up around their success, but I'm pretty sure YouTube was more or less unique when it started. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] diablexical@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I was going to say vimeo but checked the dates to make sure I remembered right - looks like it was up even before youtube 2004 vs 2005. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* oh wow, i thought for sure it came later. i should stop making snap comments when m waking up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeneryHawk@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago Wasn't dailymotion and liveleak around before YouTube? And it took YouTube some time before it became the mammoth it is now permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeneryHawk@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago (4 children) YouTube was not the only platform back then but I agree it dwarfs what is around now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (3 children) there were very very very few platforms where you could post and share streaming video online when YouTube was new. it was certainly the only free option. the internet was quite young then if you don't remember. other platforms rose up around their success, but I'm pretty sure YouTube was more or less unique when it started. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] diablexical@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I was going to say vimeo but checked the dates to make sure I remembered right - looks like it was up even before youtube 2004 vs 2005. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* oh wow, i thought for sure it came later. i should stop making snap comments when m waking up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeneryHawk@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago Wasn't dailymotion and liveleak around before YouTube? And it took YouTube some time before it became the mammoth it is now permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (3 children) there were very very very few platforms where you could post and share streaming video online when YouTube was new. it was certainly the only free option. the internet was quite young then if you don't remember. other platforms rose up around their success, but I'm pretty sure YouTube was more or less unique when it started. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] diablexical@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I was going to say vimeo but checked the dates to make sure I remembered right - looks like it was up even before youtube 2004 vs 2005. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* oh wow, i thought for sure it came later. i should stop making snap comments when m waking up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeneryHawk@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago Wasn't dailymotion and liveleak around before YouTube? And it took YouTube some time before it became the mammoth it is now permalink fedilink source parent
[–] diablexical@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I was going to say vimeo but checked the dates to make sure I remembered right - looks like it was up even before youtube 2004 vs 2005. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* oh wow, i thought for sure it came later. i should stop making snap comments when m waking up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* oh wow, i thought for sure it came later. i should stop making snap comments when m waking up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeneryHawk@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago Wasn't dailymotion and liveleak around before YouTube? And it took YouTube some time before it became the mammoth it is now permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 1 year ago (3 children) Or Odysee!! A well established platform with decentralised video storage and a FOSS app that lets you browse all videos with relatively fast loading. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) And craptastic search and discovery features. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Yeah, but discovery optimisation algorithms are what got YouTube into the mess it's in. I'm okay with a more natural, look for what you want style, as opposed to being handed video after video to waste time and oversaturate your mind. I wouldn't know too much about the searching issue. What problems have you noticed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I found that it has zero ability to infer and suggest from what I'm typing. If I typo "mine inch", easy to do on a phone keyboard, it is completely lost. But YouTube knows that I'm definitely looking for nine inch nails. "Chicken tr" on YouTube knows I'm looking for chicken tractors before I even finish, Odyssey is completely lost and requires me to type the whole thing out. When I'm searching for music it requires me to know exactly what I'm looking for and doesn't offer much in the way of exploration help. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) And craptastic search and discovery features. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Yeah, but discovery optimisation algorithms are what got YouTube into the mess it's in. I'm okay with a more natural, look for what you want style, as opposed to being handed video after video to waste time and oversaturate your mind. I wouldn't know too much about the searching issue. What problems have you noticed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I found that it has zero ability to infer and suggest from what I'm typing. If I typo "mine inch", easy to do on a phone keyboard, it is completely lost. But YouTube knows that I'm definitely looking for nine inch nails. "Chicken tr" on YouTube knows I'm looking for chicken tractors before I even finish, Odyssey is completely lost and requires me to type the whole thing out. When I'm searching for music it requires me to know exactly what I'm looking for and doesn't offer much in the way of exploration help. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Yeah, but discovery optimisation algorithms are what got YouTube into the mess it's in. I'm okay with a more natural, look for what you want style, as opposed to being handed video after video to waste time and oversaturate your mind. I wouldn't know too much about the searching issue. What problems have you noticed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I found that it has zero ability to infer and suggest from what I'm typing. If I typo "mine inch", easy to do on a phone keyboard, it is completely lost. But YouTube knows that I'm definitely looking for nine inch nails. "Chicken tr" on YouTube knows I'm looking for chicken tractors before I even finish, Odyssey is completely lost and requires me to type the whole thing out. When I'm searching for music it requires me to know exactly what I'm looking for and doesn't offer much in the way of exploration help. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I found that it has zero ability to infer and suggest from what I'm typing. If I typo "mine inch", easy to do on a phone keyboard, it is completely lost. But YouTube knows that I'm definitely looking for nine inch nails. "Chicken tr" on YouTube knows I'm looking for chicken tractors before I even finish, Odyssey is completely lost and requires me to type the whole thing out. When I'm searching for music it requires me to know exactly what I'm looking for and doesn't offer much in the way of exploration help. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] markko@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago That would be great for those 11 people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UltraMagnus@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago Hey man, the playing-pinball-while-a-cat-interferes peertube community is very close-knit (https://video.apz.fi/). I kid, but it's true that peertube lacks the dopamine hooks and variety that youtube does. It's much harder to sink hours into watching a bunch of videos that you'll only half remember by the next day. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] other_cat@piefed.zip 5 points 1 year ago Why not both, it's not like The Internet Police will stop you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cmeu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago A little ironic that this comment posted on Lemmy (tiny competitor to reddit) Viewers go where the content is, yes, but you don't get content on alternative sites if you don't post there. YouTube in the old days was awesome. Then Google happened to it. When it first started it was quite small. Principles matter! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chunes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago Better yet, this would be much better and easier to host as written instructions. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bookmeat@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Which of them help normies monetize their videos? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cmeu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago A quick Google search brought up a few alternatives that can do that, but what's the monetization potential for a removed video on YouTube? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cmeu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago A quick Google search brought up a few alternatives that can do that, but what's the monetization potential for a removed video on YouTube? permalink fedilink source parent