▲ 245 ▼ 'Valve does not get anywhere near enough criticism': DayZ creator Dean Hall says the 'gambling mechanics' of Valve's monetization strategy 'have absolutely no place' in videogames (www.pcgamer.com) submitted 1 year ago by Agent_Karyo@piefed.world to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca 67 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (14 children) Selling is the problem, it makes it actual gambling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 8 points 1 year ago (6 children) No, being able to find items for free and sell them is not the problem or what makes it gambling permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tekato@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago What do you think they’re buying it for? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) “First one’s free” As in you get infinitely more by buying than you are given for free (hence why people buy them) is always the sign of a well intentioned business. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago I never put money into the game for many years until I could afford to support the creators because I was happy with the items I could find for free permalink fedilink source parent [–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Not really, you need to spend money to open a crate but you can sell a crate for free. So any rational person would sell their crates for guaranteed money instead of buying a key to probably lose money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Rationality is rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Keep trying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Selling is not gambling. It's kind of the opposite of gambling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -3 points 1 year ago (5 children) Is valve buying the boxes and destroying them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) That doesn't make any sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) If valve isn't buying them and destroying them, then where are they going and why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're trying too hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not the one promoting gambling on a gaming platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Show me where I promoted gambling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 8 points 1 year ago (6 children) No, being able to find items for free and sell them is not the problem or what makes it gambling permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tekato@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago What do you think they’re buying it for? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) “First one’s free” As in you get infinitely more by buying than you are given for free (hence why people buy them) is always the sign of a well intentioned business. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago I never put money into the game for many years until I could afford to support the creators because I was happy with the items I could find for free permalink fedilink source parent [–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Not really, you need to spend money to open a crate but you can sell a crate for free. So any rational person would sell their crates for guaranteed money instead of buying a key to probably lose money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Rationality is rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Keep trying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tekato@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago What do you think they’re buying it for? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) “First one’s free” As in you get infinitely more by buying than you are given for free (hence why people buy them) is always the sign of a well intentioned business. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago I never put money into the game for many years until I could afford to support the creators because I was happy with the items I could find for free permalink fedilink source parent [–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Not really, you need to spend money to open a crate but you can sell a crate for free. So any rational person would sell their crates for guaranteed money instead of buying a key to probably lose money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Rationality is rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Keep trying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago I never put money into the game for many years until I could afford to support the creators because I was happy with the items I could find for free permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Not really, you need to spend money to open a crate but you can sell a crate for free. So any rational person would sell their crates for guaranteed money instead of buying a key to probably lose money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Rationality is rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Keep trying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Rationality is rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Keep trying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Selling is not gambling. It's kind of the opposite of gambling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -3 points 1 year ago (5 children) Is valve buying the boxes and destroying them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) That doesn't make any sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) If valve isn't buying them and destroying them, then where are they going and why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're trying too hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not the one promoting gambling on a gaming platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Show me where I promoted gambling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -3 points 1 year ago (5 children) Is valve buying the boxes and destroying them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) That doesn't make any sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) If valve isn't buying them and destroying them, then where are they going and why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're trying too hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not the one promoting gambling on a gaming platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Show me where I promoted gambling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) That doesn't make any sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) If valve isn't buying them and destroying them, then where are they going and why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're trying too hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not the one promoting gambling on a gaming platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Show me where I promoted gambling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) If valve isn't buying them and destroying them, then where are they going and why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're trying too hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not the one promoting gambling on a gaming platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Show me where I promoted gambling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're trying too hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not the one promoting gambling on a gaming platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Show me where I promoted gambling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not the one promoting gambling on a gaming platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Show me where I promoted gambling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Show me where I promoted gambling. permalink fedilink source parent