▲ 245 ▼ 'Valve does not get anywhere near enough criticism': DayZ creator Dean Hall says the 'gambling mechanics' of Valve's monetization strategy 'have absolutely no place' in videogames (www.pcgamer.com) submitted 1 year ago by Agent_Karyo@piefed.world to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca 67 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 year ago (29 children) Yes I don't know why they don't get more hate over this. permalink fedilink source hideshow 29 child comments replies: [–] poke@sh.itjust.works 108 points 1 year ago (4 children) From my perspective its because they're still somehow not even among the worst. Their only way of advertising their gambling is by giving the player a crate. This crate can be opened for $2.50, or sold on the marketplace to someone else who wants to open it. This money can be spent on buying real games. In cod, you get full screen advertisements on the regular for $10+ skin bundles. In almost every game as a service you get progress in a battle pass that ALWAYS directly contrasts your usually untradeable rewards with what you could be getting if you paid this month's subscription fee. Valve does have a scummy system, but they make it less annoying and if you choose to not participate you usually benefit with real funds to use on steam. Its hard to hate that over the aggressive advertising of its competitors. All IMO, though. I'm no psychologist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (3 children) I agree. But it's important to note that just because it flies under the radar of most people, doesn't mean it isn't an absolutely deplorable system that exploits the difficult to control tendencies of vulnerable people. It's evil, and while it's "only a little bit of evil" compared to most similar system, there is no amount of evil that is ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] lemjukes@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Being ‘least shitty’ isn’t really a worthwhile acolade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes. That's what I said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lemjukes@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago Oh, sorry, I guess I’ll shut the fuck up now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 31 points 1 year ago* (16 children) I don't want to defend them too much but honestly out of all the loot boxes out there theirs is the least bad. You can even just sell the boxes you get for free by playing and buy shit (on Steam) with the money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago This, I bought a Triple A title once with money from drops without never interacting with this shit. I would play anyway but I got "paid" while playing. It's a marketing tactic and we need to be aware of this, some people will see the opportunity to "make money" playing and will invest a shit ton of cash to maybe drop a rare item but if you don't do that you just getting a little bit of money to buy games with. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (14 children) Selling is the problem, it makes it actual gambling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 8 points 1 year ago (6 children) No, being able to find items for free and sell them is not the problem or what makes it gambling permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tekato@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago What do you think they’re buying it for? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) “First one’s free” As in you get infinitely more by buying than you are given for free (hence why people buy them) is always the sign of a well intentioned business. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago I never put money into the game for many years until I could afford to support the creators because I was happy with the items I could find for free permalink fedilink source parent [–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Not really, you need to spend money to open a crate but you can sell a crate for free. So any rational person would sell their crates for guaranteed money instead of buying a key to probably lose money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Rationality is rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Keep trying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Selling is not gambling. It's kind of the opposite of gambling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -3 points 1 year ago (5 children) Is valve buying the boxes and destroying them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) That doesn't make any sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) If valve isn't buying them and destroying them, then where are they going and why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're trying too hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not the one promoting gambling on a gaming platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Show me where I promoted gambling. permalink fedilink source parent [–] markz@suppo.fi 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) For most people it's harder to hate Valve with the positive things they do. Obviously they shouldn't get a pass for this, but forming a conflicted opinion seems to be against human nature. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago There's bigger things to worry about than Valve permalink fedilink source parent [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago Brand and billionaire loyalty. permalink fedilink source parent [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 6 points 1 year ago This is half true at least. It's not just insane nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 1 point 1 year ago They do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grimy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* Advertising and marketing, and a lot of it. There's always a few puff pieces per week. Steam makes so much fucking money and Gaben is enjoying the soft monopoly he has just as much as Microsoft and Nintendo. Gabens mega yatchs cost an estimated 100 to 150 million just in yearly maintenance. He has 8 of them (worth 1 billion in total). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] poke@sh.itjust.works 108 points 1 year ago (4 children) From my perspective its because they're still somehow not even among the worst. Their only way of advertising their gambling is by giving the player a crate. This crate can be opened for $2.50, or sold on the marketplace to someone else who wants to open it. This money can be spent on buying real games. In cod, you get full screen advertisements on the regular for $10+ skin bundles. In almost every game as a service you get progress in a battle pass that ALWAYS directly contrasts your usually untradeable rewards with what you could be getting if you paid this month's subscription fee. Valve does have a scummy system, but they make it less annoying and if you choose to not participate you usually benefit with real funds to use on steam. Its hard to hate that over the aggressive advertising of its competitors. All IMO, though. I'm no psychologist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (3 children) I agree. But it's important to note that just because it flies under the radar of most people, doesn't mean it isn't an absolutely deplorable system that exploits the difficult to control tendencies of vulnerable people. It's evil, and while it's "only a little bit of evil" compared to most similar system, there is no amount of evil that is ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] lemjukes@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Being ‘least shitty’ isn’t really a worthwhile acolade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes. That's what I said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lemjukes@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago Oh, sorry, I guess I’ll shut the fuck up now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (3 children) I agree. But it's important to note that just because it flies under the radar of most people, doesn't mean it isn't an absolutely deplorable system that exploits the difficult to control tendencies of vulnerable people. It's evil, and while it's "only a little bit of evil" compared to most similar system, there is no amount of evil that is ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] lemjukes@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Being ‘least shitty’ isn’t really a worthwhile acolade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes. That's what I said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lemjukes@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago Oh, sorry, I guess I’ll shut the fuck up now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemjukes@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Being ‘least shitty’ isn’t really a worthwhile acolade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes. That's what I said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lemjukes@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago Oh, sorry, I guess I’ll shut the fuck up now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes. That's what I said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lemjukes@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago Oh, sorry, I guess I’ll shut the fuck up now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemjukes@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago Oh, sorry, I guess I’ll shut the fuck up now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 31 points 1 year ago* (16 children) I don't want to defend them too much but honestly out of all the loot boxes out there theirs is the least bad. You can even just sell the boxes you get for free by playing and buy shit (on Steam) with the money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago This, I bought a Triple A title once with money from drops without never interacting with this shit. I would play anyway but I got "paid" while playing. It's a marketing tactic and we need to be aware of this, some people will see the opportunity to "make money" playing and will invest a shit ton of cash to maybe drop a rare item but if you don't do that you just getting a little bit of money to buy games with. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (14 children) Selling is the problem, it makes it actual gambling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 8 points 1 year ago (6 children) No, being able to find items for free and sell them is not the problem or what makes it gambling permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tekato@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago What do you think they’re buying it for? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) “First one’s free” As in you get infinitely more by buying than you are given for free (hence why people buy them) is always the sign of a well intentioned business. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago I never put money into the game for many years until I could afford to support the creators because I was happy with the items I could find for free permalink fedilink source parent [–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Not really, you need to spend money to open a crate but you can sell a crate for free. So any rational person would sell their crates for guaranteed money instead of buying a key to probably lose money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Rationality is rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Keep trying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Selling is not gambling. It's kind of the opposite of gambling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -3 points 1 year ago (5 children) Is valve buying the boxes and destroying them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) That doesn't make any sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) If valve isn't buying them and destroying them, then where are they going and why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're trying too hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not the one promoting gambling on a gaming platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Show me where I promoted gambling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago This, I bought a Triple A title once with money from drops without never interacting with this shit. I would play anyway but I got "paid" while playing. It's a marketing tactic and we need to be aware of this, some people will see the opportunity to "make money" playing and will invest a shit ton of cash to maybe drop a rare item but if you don't do that you just getting a little bit of money to buy games with. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (14 children) Selling is the problem, it makes it actual gambling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 8 points 1 year ago (6 children) No, being able to find items for free and sell them is not the problem or what makes it gambling permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tekato@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago What do you think they’re buying it for? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) “First one’s free” As in you get infinitely more by buying than you are given for free (hence why people buy them) is always the sign of a well intentioned business. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago I never put money into the game for many years until I could afford to support the creators because I was happy with the items I could find for free permalink fedilink source parent [–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Not really, you need to spend money to open a crate but you can sell a crate for free. So any rational person would sell their crates for guaranteed money instead of buying a key to probably lose money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Rationality is rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Keep trying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Selling is not gambling. It's kind of the opposite of gambling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -3 points 1 year ago (5 children) Is valve buying the boxes and destroying them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) That doesn't make any sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) If valve isn't buying them and destroying them, then where are they going and why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're trying too hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not the one promoting gambling on a gaming platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Show me where I promoted gambling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 8 points 1 year ago (6 children) No, being able to find items for free and sell them is not the problem or what makes it gambling permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tekato@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago What do you think they’re buying it for? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) “First one’s free” As in you get infinitely more by buying than you are given for free (hence why people buy them) is always the sign of a well intentioned business. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago I never put money into the game for many years until I could afford to support the creators because I was happy with the items I could find for free permalink fedilink source parent [–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Not really, you need to spend money to open a crate but you can sell a crate for free. So any rational person would sell their crates for guaranteed money instead of buying a key to probably lose money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Rationality is rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Keep trying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tekato@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago What do you think they’re buying it for? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) “First one’s free” As in you get infinitely more by buying than you are given for free (hence why people buy them) is always the sign of a well intentioned business. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago I never put money into the game for many years until I could afford to support the creators because I was happy with the items I could find for free permalink fedilink source parent [–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Not really, you need to spend money to open a crate but you can sell a crate for free. So any rational person would sell their crates for guaranteed money instead of buying a key to probably lose money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Rationality is rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Keep trying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago I never put money into the game for many years until I could afford to support the creators because I was happy with the items I could find for free permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Not really, you need to spend money to open a crate but you can sell a crate for free. So any rational person would sell their crates for guaranteed money instead of buying a key to probably lose money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Rationality is rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Keep trying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Rationality is rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Keep trying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) Selling is not gambling. It's kind of the opposite of gambling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -3 points 1 year ago (5 children) Is valve buying the boxes and destroying them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) That doesn't make any sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) If valve isn't buying them and destroying them, then where are they going and why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're trying too hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not the one promoting gambling on a gaming platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Show me where I promoted gambling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -3 points 1 year ago (5 children) Is valve buying the boxes and destroying them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) That doesn't make any sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) If valve isn't buying them and destroying them, then where are they going and why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're trying too hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not the one promoting gambling on a gaming platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Show me where I promoted gambling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) That doesn't make any sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) If valve isn't buying them and destroying them, then where are they going and why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're trying too hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not the one promoting gambling on a gaming platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Show me where I promoted gambling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) If valve isn't buying them and destroying them, then where are they going and why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're trying too hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not the one promoting gambling on a gaming platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Show me where I promoted gambling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're trying too hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not the one promoting gambling on a gaming platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Show me where I promoted gambling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm not the one promoting gambling on a gaming platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Show me where I promoted gambling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago Yes. Show me where I promoted gambling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] markz@suppo.fi 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) For most people it's harder to hate Valve with the positive things they do. Obviously they shouldn't get a pass for this, but forming a conflicted opinion seems to be against human nature. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago There's bigger things to worry about than Valve permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago There's bigger things to worry about than Valve permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago Brand and billionaire loyalty. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] the_q@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 6 points 1 year ago This is half true at least. It's not just insane nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 6 points 1 year ago This is half true at least. It's not just insane nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grimy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* Advertising and marketing, and a lot of it. There's always a few puff pieces per week. Steam makes so much fucking money and Gaben is enjoying the soft monopoly he has just as much as Microsoft and Nintendo. Gabens mega yatchs cost an estimated 100 to 150 million just in yearly maintenance. He has 8 of them (worth 1 billion in total). permalink fedilink source parent