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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz -2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

What kind of subscriptions require large infrastructure?

Music/media/cloudstorage can all run on a single pc/server costing maybe half a day of setting it up by most people at the level of having switched to Linux.

Acces to a big multiplayer game server is the only one that really comes go mind.

If it’s just for a few people there is very little need for maintenance, rarely any developer work.

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[–] r_se_random@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think 4K media streaming does need a fair bit of infrastructure management.

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* (4 children)

My jellyfin can stream 4K just fine, even remotely through a vpn so i am not sure what you mean.

Depending on transcoding you might require a gpu but still not a standard “gaming spec” pc cant handle.

Come to think of it, my internet provider does allow upload up to 25mb/s and this is the highest end available for consumers in my area. Technically thats a subscription but realistically its bill similar to water/electricity.

The upload limit is also purely and artificial cap, they could easily quadruple it if they wanted.

Also Realistically usecase for 4k movies is usually your home couch so it be streamed on Lan speed. Quality is often better than common stream providers because they do cheat to keep bandwidth down.

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[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This isn't meant as a slight, but I take it you don't work in IT. You are way underestimating what it takes to run a service at the scale these large companies do. Homelabbing is cool and a great way to get off these providers, but we as individuals have completely different requirements. A proper cloud service is incredibly complex with multiple environments, rigid change controls, global availability, zero allowable downtime, etc. You can't just wing it with a few desktops.

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz -2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

Must be different requirements indeed. But yours don’t sound like typical consumer requirements. Why do we need the same scale as a large corporation?

I can respect the corporate ability to serve thousands at a time but a typical household simply doesn’t need that.

Me and a few of my friends all work in IT and each have a dedicated proxmox machine that runs all of these things just fine. Nextcloud has so far only failed me once when i needed it and it was actually a cloudflare issue and still worked locally.

Navidrome i use all day every day and need accessible from anywhere. I have not updated or checked the container since setup and it has been stable as a rock. Fuck spotify which doesn’t have the bootlegs i listen to anyway.

The endgoal, which i archived is that i have no need for subscriptions and actually own my data which is the point right?

My actual hobbyist goal is to create something that can persist locally if the internet one day disappears.

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[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

We were originally discussing why subscriptions can make sense to fund ongoing costs and you replied:

What kind of subscriptions require large infrastructure?

My response was based on the original topic of services provided by large companies, not self hosting for individual consumption. I also run a proxmox server and have similar requirements to you, but this is not indicative of the type of infrastructure a larger company with higher SLAs and demands would require.

Saying you can slap together a couple proxmox servers and have something equivalent to what it takes to run Netflix is highly disingenuous. Saying you can do the same and have an alternative to Netflix for YOU is true, but not what we're discussing.

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago*

Ah i completely missed that context.

I thought we were just discussing consumer subscriptions. I don't often think about corporate entities as customers because often the product is a complete different class i don't qualify for and i have radically position on economic organisations

Interesting thing i just found out is my internet providers has a plan for business which is identical to the one i own except its cheaper and doubles the upload capacities.

As far as my level of knowledge , people at work come to me because i understand computers, but not for finances.

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