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How do you kill time at work? (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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I frequently have all of my work completed, and I am unfortunately not allowed to work from home. This means I spend a lot of time sitting at my desk scrolling social media, because there’s nothing that needs done. I feel like I’m wasting my time, even more than work already wasted the best hours of the day. How do you fill that downtime with something that is personally valuable, but not disruptive or noticeable enough that you’d get in trouble?

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[–] 2 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Will it get you ahead tho? Or only under very certain conditions? The last times(!) I have seen people going beyond it was essentially treated like that is to be expected. I have never seen that pay off to anyone. But you know what "always" pays off? Showing you boss you are busy. Just making that impression, not necessarily doing much.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    If you are at a company and nobody notices you are doing nothing but "looking busy", and that doesn't get you in trouble eventually, you don't want to be at that company. What the fuck is that, dude. You should be in a place of collaboration where people notice you, and notice if something is off. Otherwise the place is very clearly poorly run. Get out of there.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (9 children)

    How many bosses are there that genuinely look at how efficient someone was based on objective data instead of going by gut feeling? How to even define efficient or any other metric? Way too complicated.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    The boss doesn't need to. If you are working with people, and you collaborate and talk about what you're doing every day, you'll quickly notice when someone isn't doing shit. This will bubble up to the relevant manager and boss and they would have a talk with you to mitigate this behavior. No success? You're out.

    Not complicated in the least, if you have the proper team structure and communication routines. 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (7 children)

    What kind of work do you do that it is so easy to see what and how much someone actually does?

    For me, a new job could be a few hours or several days and I only truly know that when it is done and no further complications can pop up. For someone else doing the same thing, it could be the opposite (easy/fast vs slow/hard). Or it all hinges on one singular idea to solve some issue, so it could literally be a month without real progress and then it is solved within an hour.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    What kind of work do you do that it is so easy to see what and how much someone actually does?

    Pick any freaking job lol.

    1. Carpenter — you're not delivering anything... carpented. Carpened. I dunno.
    2. Nurse — you're not pulling your weight; the other nurses will notice immediately (I know second hand).
    3. Software engineering in a team — people will notice you're not creating any pull requests, e.g. Or saying the same bullshit every single morning at standup.
    4. Cleaning — the clients you're supposed to be cleaning for will complain to your manager somehow that the shit ain't cleaned properly.
    5. Fishing — coming home with empty buckets: "wtf you doing out there, son?"

    Like, pick a profession. If you're not producing or providing the service, people should notice. Otherwise it's poorly run, IMO.

    What do you do for work? That's really starting to intrigue me.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    Chemical engineer. But the same applies to any job where you need to come up with some sort of solution that is not already known or readily available. Anything creative really.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    So if you never do anything but look busy, you won't get fired?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    No. That is not my point. I said that the most important thing is making the boss think you are productive/busy, regardless of that actually being the case. A boss can't and/or does not use objective data to assess productivity. At least I have never seen that anywhere.

    That does not mean that you do nothing. It just means that you can appear far more productive/busy/important/... when that is far from the truth.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't know what to tell you. In my experience, in my line of work, if you show what you can do, you become valuable. If you slack off, you don't. Showing what you can do will get you ahead. That's my point based on empirical evidence I've seen and done first hand, and that's the original point you were challenging. I've answered it now, so there. 👍

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Of course you have answered my question, no worries. I find it odd that our experiences are so different. Like I know nobody who stayed at a company and got anywhere, everyone always has to go somewhere else to get higher pay etc. And at the same time, companies complain that if they train someone, they just go to a different company. Like are they best dumb? Really odd reality we are living in.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Well, I didn't really specify that you would get ahead at the same company necessarily. And by getting ahead wouldn't necessarily mean a raise either.

    Getting ahead could mean that you get a good recommendation for when you want to move to a new place of work, good things to put on your CV, or even be the one who isn't let go during a downsizing. You make yourself valuable, is all.

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