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Tesla reintroduces 'Mad Max' Full Self-Driving mode that breaks speed limits (www.engadget.com)
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[–] 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Intentionally breaking laws sounds like something that should be prosecuted.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    It will always fall on the driver of the vehicle, as it should. I don't care how self driving your car is, it has a steering wheel, an accelerator pedal, and a brake pedal and in the driver seat YOU are responsible with how you operate your vehicle. If u decide to trust a self driving feature that's YOUR mistake. I would love to blame all these crashes on Tesla but the reality is that all these drivers aids and self driving cars having accidents is proof that you should be the one in control of your own vehicle. No crying about how the automotive nannies didn't stop you from crashing the vehicle your driving, take responsibility. Don't like it? Don't trust the "self driving" nonsense (read: glorified advanced cruise control). Now one thing I don't agree with is advertising as self driving, and I strongly believe self driving vehicles in public roadways should be ILLEGAL!

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Except the problem here is Tesla is lying about a product to encourage people to use it illegally and unsafely. At some point there's extra deaths to blame solely on tesla's lies.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Can you point to one of those lies? Because every time I push the FSD button it says 'keep hands on the wheel be prepared to take over at any time' right there on the screen.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Full Self Driving, the name of the feature is literally a lie. Its used all over in the marketing for the vehicle. Most car companies call comparable features "driving assistance" or "lane control" etc.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    There is a significant difference between lane control and FSD. Lane control just keeps you in the lane so you don't have to actively steer. FSD actually drives the car, changes lanes, makes turns, stops for traffic lights and stop signs, navigates intersections, etc. With the current v14, you can get in your car, type in a destination, and then not steer or push the pedals at all and the car will take you to a parking space at your destination. Lane control does not do that. I'm not aware of any other company that does that.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Tesla has the highest accident rate per driver for a reason. FSD has routinely plowed into children, emergency vehicles etc. Theres a number of lawsuits against them around the world.

    Other companies have implemented these more limited systems (that often include better sensors such as lidar) not because they can't do it but rather because they are more cautious about brazenly lying to people about the capabilities of their system.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    FSD has routinely plowed into children, emergency vehicles etc.

    You are using this word 'routinely', but I do not think that it means what you think it means.

    Can you give me, say, 10 incidents of this? Of a Tesla confirmed to be on FSD driving full speed into a child, emergency vehicle, etc?

    FSD used to 'routinely' be overly cautious and slow down when not necessary, but I don't think it's driving into things.

    I'd also point out the driver remains responsible for the car and an eye movement camera prevents distracted driving, but I digress.

    Other companies have implemented these more limited systems (that often include better sensors such as lidar) not because they can’t do it but rather because they are more cautious about brazenly lying to people about the capabilities of their system.

    Other companies simply have less capable systems.
    If I go and buy a current product Tesla, I can have it drive me home and chances are I won't have to touch any controls. In a few cases, new production Teslas literally deliver themselves to the new owner's driveway. Can any other automaker say the same?

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