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Those companies also make handbags, which are substantially more profitable than pants with pockets as long as those companies keep handbags in fashion

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[–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Is the hypothesis that companies have their customers' best interests in mind? /shrug I'm just going to base my worldview on the only data I could find rather than "I remember reading a comment." At least until I run across new data.

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[+] teslasaur@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

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[–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Planned obsolescence, subscription degradation, ad creep, landfills full of cheap crap... It's in their interests to sell the least useful thing for the highest price. If it costs more to put in pockets, they'll spend a surprising amount of money trying to convince people they don't want pockets. Or better yet, just buy up every competitor until there are only a few players and decide amongst yourselves not to make better stuff. I'm not saying that's what happened, necessarily, it's just not a foregone conclusion that pockets are scarce because demand is scarce.

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[+] teslasaur@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

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[–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

Public perception can function like any other externality, meaning you can offload costs onto it. This is regularly done, but it'd be foolish to claim that's the case here without more information. As it would be foolish to assume the hand of the market is gently guiding us to a better world.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So you've got a very vocal market calling out their demand for a product that is more or less trivial to manufacture, and yet not a single entrepreneur has successfully brought the product to market. Why would that be?

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[–] nightlily@leminal.space 3 points 1 year ago

There are retailers who have pockets in women‘s clothing by default but it does have some marginal cost. In a world of fast fashion, if they can get away with it, they will.

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[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

A quick search confirms that women's clothing with pockets does in fact exist, so the niche is getting served.

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[–] Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

It takes significantly more time in shopping. Online, the normal look at 25 items to find one that matches my style preferences and is available in my size, then add clicking through all the product detail tabs to try to figure out if it has pockets, 80% of them don't, and of the ones that do it's mostly hope that they aren't poorly designed where everything falls out of them upon sitting down.

I appreciate that, with a multiple of the shopping time investment required by men or women who don't value pockets, and some fallout in unusable pockets, women's clothing with pockets is available. But I sure wish it was more available.

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[–] LockheedTheDragon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

My SIL doesn't want pockets, but she is wealthy and into style. I think some of the women who don't want pockets are into style and/or looking wealthy enough to not need pockets.

Women who are pragmatic want pockets.

I've been ripping open pockets and sewing more fabric onto them making them big.

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[–] renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

I became aware of this once in the office where a woman brought up the fact that guys were lucky to have functional pockets. Most pockets on womans clothing are either fake or are sewn shut and for looks.

I asked why? And she explained it ruins the "Pants Chi". I guess it gets in the way of showing off the figure somehow.